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Catbone said:
Finebaum: "Butch Jones may be the worst game management coach I have ever seen"

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The hyperbole is getting ridiculous. I'm guilty of it myself, but it's out of hand right now.

Butch isn't a total scrub of a coach (he's not good either, but he's not John L. Smith). He made some bad decisions that cost him his job. Decisions that were made 2-3 seasons ago and are just now catching up with him. If he was the worst game manager in FBS we would have 0 wins over UGA and 0 over UF. Probably 0 over South Carolina as well.

His bad decisions aren't Dooley "I didn't recruit an OL in 2012" bad, but bad enough that 2017 was going to be a rough year. Combine that with dropping two games you absolutely can't drop the year before and now he's on a scorching hot seat/essentially already fired.
 
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I mean honestly, how many games do we win next year if we keep Butch? I’m thinking 7 tops. So we keep Butch only to fire him one year later? I just don’t see this program going up from here. He’s maxed his potential at UT imo
 
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Aesius said:
The hyperbole is getting ridiculous. I'm guilty of it myself, but it's out of hand right now.

Butch isn't a total scrub of a coach (he's not good either, but he's not John L. Smith). He made some bad decisions that cost him his job. Decisions that were made 2-3 seasons ago and are just now catching up with him. If he was the worst game manager in FBS we would have 0 wins over UGA and 0 over UF. Probably 0 over South Carolina as well.

His bad decisions aren't Dooley "I didn't recruit an OL in 2012" bad, but bad enough that 2017 was going to be a rough year. Combine that with dropping two games you absolutely can't drop the year before and now he's on a scorching hot seat/essentially already fired.
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I agree but hes not too far off.
 
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Catbone said:
Finebaum: "Butch Jones may be the worst game management coach I have ever seen"

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Not really directed at you, but really, why does anyone care what Finebuam says? Almost everything he says and does is to get attention. He's a sports shock jock.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Thanks for the link. Early on he also talks about how if Butch were to magically go 5-0 to finish Sexton would want to negotiate that mitigation clause out of the contract. There's no way Currie is going to do that.

So what we know for a fact is no matter how the rest of the games go, Butch will be finding another job.
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What's the mitigation clause?
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Don't see anything beyond someone saying something may come out soon no details then people throw out random names.... crowder is gross so I have no sympathy if he got punched at this point
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I hope he did get punched. I'd add it to one of the little things CBJ did right in his time here.
 
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Aesius said:
The hyperbole is getting ridiculous. I'm guilty of it myself, but it's out of hand right now.

Butch isn't a total scrub of a coach (he's not good either, but he's not John L. Smith). He made some bad decisions that cost him his job. Decisions that were made 2-3 seasons ago and are just now catching up with him. If he was the worst game manager in FBS we would have 0 wins over UGA and 0 over UF. Probably 0 over South Carolina as well.

His bad decisions aren't Dooley "I didn't recruit an OL in 2012" bad, but bad enough that 2017 was going to be a rough year. Combine that with dropping two games you absolutely can't drop the year before and now he's on a scorching hot seat/essentially already fired.
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He's well below average from a game management standpoint at this level IMO.
 
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Catbone said:
Finebaum: "Butch Jones may be the worst game management coach I have ever seen"

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Well, he may not be great, but I would pegs his bigger problems were strategic in 1) not bringing in a competent OC this year, 2) firing his longtime strength coach, and 3) not having the courage to tell entitled former 5-stars to kick rocks if they're not willing to work.

If he hadn't make those errors, we'd be all tolerating his Butchisms because we'd have competitive teams.
 
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Peyton is the wildcard in all this. He's retired and will be watching the Vols closely on Saturdays now. He doesn't want to suffer through another 5 years of a little dick coach.
 
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