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Strictly from a recruiting standpoint of all the coaches mentioned, who has the biggest imediate impact on recruiting?
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
I hear ya -- but sometimes high reward comes with high risk. You're a Frost guy. If his system were to work in the SEC the way it is at UCF, that would be a huge reward. If it doesn't and SEC defenses are too good for it, which I believe is quite possible and even likely... then it would be a complete flop.

I would imagine ADs and big money boosters would prefer less risk in this type of investment.
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I don’t see that happening. His system took Oregon to the NC.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Unfortunately, as we know, there are no clear no brainers right now. Coaching searches nowadays are a product of lucky timing as much as anything

It’s not certain but I feel there is enough there to roll with Frost
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I’d be happy rolling with Frost as well.


Just don’t think the Meyer comparison is that good. Right now he looks more like Tom Herman from a resume standpoint.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
That statement is setting you up for the same response.. “and then lost to an SEC team..” is what they will say.
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The point is, Frost's offense is not a sure thing to work in the SEC. And if it didn't, it would be a huge flop. That makes hiring him very risky imo.

The issue of his offense is on top of his overall lack of experience as a HC.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
Agree. If Gruden flopped, it would be hard to point at the AD and/or boosters for not trying and getting the homerun that everyone seemingly wanted most.
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That is the appeal to hiring him. The AD absolves himself from criticism. It is certainly possible Gruden would fail to achieve success at UT. But if he doesn't the AD gets to say....but I hired the biggest name possible. Part of my concern in that even if Currie sees red flags during the interview process that he still hires Gruden because of the above mentioned reason.
 
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Scott Frost has been exposed for many years to offensive systems that are different than the one he is using at UCF. Some of you are undervaluing his coaching intelligence IMO. He played in the league under some of the very best.

The quickest way for him to succeed at UCF is doing what he is doing with the existing roster and recruits he could secure in a short period of time. There is zero question in my mind that he would adapt the O to the roster he has and recruits he can secure at UT.
 
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Well, Matthews said on Sunday that the leadership had not made a decision on if they will make a change or not. So we should just be prepared for Butch in 2018 to sink this program further
 
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This discussion about Frost's system working in the SEC is no different that many other systems. If Frost gets the right QB to come to UT the system can work. Pretty simple. So it comes down to, can he evaluate and recruit the QB necessary to make the system successful. The type of system he runs requires a QB with a particular set of skills. The elite QB recruits that possess those particular skills will be limited. So he will need to either out recruit the big dogs for those guys or be really good at finding the next Hawaiian QB diamond. The best news is the JG at least checks some of the boxes for those skills.
 
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BruinVol said:
He exibited some very poor lack of judgment on twitter and now is without a job. Seems pretty simple we got lucky. If he got a raw deal he should get hired any minute now. With his twitter skills maybe The Donald will hire him.
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If he truly did just get screwed over at no fault of his own, he’ll have a job in an AD at the G5 or P5 level again before too long and a chance to work his way up again.


If that’s not the case, then there’s probably some more issues behind the scenes with him.
 
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Vols4us said:
Scott Frost has been exposed for many years to offensive systems that are different than the one he is using at UCF. Some of you are undervaluing his coaching intelligence IMO. He played in the league under some of the very best.

The quickest way for him to succeed at UCF is doing what he is doing with the existing roster and recruits he could secure in a short period of time. There is zero question in my mind that he would adapt the O to the roster he has and recruits he can secure at UT.
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Yeah, I don't see him being a one-trick pony. I think he may be more likely to succeed in the SEC than Chip Kelly. At least at a school that doesn't recruit itself and isn't in the land of 800 5* recruits who all run 4.4 40s.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
The point is, Frost's offense is not a sure thing to work in the SEC. And if it didn't, it would be a huge flop. That makes hiring him very risky imo.

The issue of his offense is on top of his overall lack of experience as a HC.
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It is not a sure thing that will not. Similar statements were made when Meyer came to UF. Let's not pretend that every SEC school plays elite defense and personally think Frost is smart enough to adapt, Main question: can he coach and recruit well enough to beat Bama, Dawgs and gators... High reward = high risk.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Strictly from a recruiting standpoint of all the coaches mentioned, who has the biggest imediate impact on recruiting?
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