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volatil said:
I think Mullen would kill it here. The level of recruits at Tennessee is not the same at MSU. QB guru. And God knows we need that.

He’s way up my list not that anyone cares
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He could also hire a better coaching staff here. Would play in a much bigger, better stadium with better facilities. And like you said he’d get better players.
 
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I will preface by saying Mullen would be an absolute improvement over what we have now. My issue with Mullen is the UGA game this year. There is nothing about that game that showed he is a superior coach to Smart. He may recruit better at UT than Starkville, but he will still likely be behind UGA and Bama in talent. I have yet to see that he could beat teams of that caliber with teams of our talent level.
 
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You guys think Mullen will have a better program to sell here, and will perform better.

The argument is fair. Unknown outcome
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
You guys think Mullen will have a better program to sell here, and will perform better.

The argument is fair. Unknown outcome
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Same for Frost. I think Frost would be great too but I think Mullen is legit and would win this sorry East division with our team
 
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I’ll play the hypothetical: if Gruden were to somehow become our coach, he would definitely have the name appeal in recruiting. Realistically, how good of recruiters would he have to surround himself with, seeing as how he has never really done it?
 
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Okay since it looks like most on here have a hard on for Mullen for some reason, then he absolutely cannot have the same ceiling as Butch. The ceiling is an SEC championship minimum- we are supposed to be upgrading the coach, so expectations better be upgraded and expected.
Otherwise just keep the caretaker and continue to suck...
 
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volinbama256 said:
Okay since it looks like most on here have a hard on for Mullen for some reason, then he absolutely cannot have the same ceiling as Butch. The ceiling is an SEC championship minimum- we are supposed to be upgrading the coach, so expectations better be upgraded and expected.
Otherwise just keep the caretaker and continue to suck...
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For year 5, those are Butch’s expectations as well— to compete for an SEC championship, especially with the east being down. So, whoever comes in should have similar expectations.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Around 9 is what I said

I see a single 10 win season standing along a lot of 8 and below
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I would argue as well he has just as much room to grow as Frost or others, only with a much better level of consistency and a much higher floor.

I don't think Mullen is a finished product, and to your larger point, would need to get better in order to be a slam dunk hire. I'm just more confident that he can be that than you are.
 
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If Davenport is the one behind Blackburn not being hired I can't understand why anyone is criticizing her for that. We should be applauding her as she avoided hiring a guy that is no longer an AD. He clearly had issues and I praise her for steering clear of him.
 
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I've said this before, but hiring Dan Mullen would feel a lot like when LSU hired Les Miles. Everyone could see he was a very good coach at Oklahoma State but his record there (from memory) was good - but not earth shattering.

When he got to a program that offered everything needed to succeed everything clicked for him. I think a similar thing would happen for Mullen at UT.
 
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DD4ME said:
I will preface by saying Mullen would be an absolute improvement over what we have now. My issue with Mullen is the UGA game this year. There is nothing about that game that showed he is a superior coach to Smart. He may recruit better at UT than Starkville, but he will still likely be behind UGA and Bama in talent. I have yet to see that he could beat teams of that caliber with teams of our talent level.
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Yea that game was disheartening for them. But I’m thinking they may have just ran into a buzz saw and the game got away from them early. Kinda like Cal when they played here. We punched them in the face and they never recovered.
 
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volinbama256 said:
Okay since it looks like most on here have a hard on for Mullen for some reason, then he absolutely cannot have the same ceiling as Butch. The ceiling is an SEC championship minimum- we are supposed to be upgrading the coach, so expectations better be upgraded and expected.
Otherwise just keep the caretaker and continue to suck...
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We'd be 9-3 next year with a shot at 10+ and an SEC title in his second year if we get him.

He would average 2-3 wins better then he is getting at MSU here at UT and hes averaging like 8 wins a year.

You all have to think about how well he would utilize our talent and coach them up to their fullest abilities.

He is taking teams with the 2nd or 3rd worst talent in the SEC every year out of high school and getting them into the upper mid level of the SEC each year.

If our talent is upper mid in the SEC he would have us right at the top.

Do I think he would have TN at a Saban level dominance? Absolutely not. But do I think Mullen would have TN hovering in that 9-11 regular season win # almost every year with a special season every 3-5 years? absolutely.

He would be a fantastic hire as long as he could build a good staff of recruiters and DC which I'm sure our budget and his reputation would facilitate.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
You guys think Mullen will have a better program to sell here, and will perform better.

The argument is fair. Unknown outcome
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Pretty much any sitting coach we hire outside of maybe Jimbo would be upgrading facilities, program, etc. no doubt about that.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
We'd be 9-3 next year with a shot at 10+ and an SEC title in his second year if we get him.

He would average 2-3 wins better then he is getting at MSU here at UT and hes averaging like 8 wins a year.

You all have to think about how well he would utilize our talent and coach them up to their fullest abilities.

He is taking teams with the 2nd or 3rd worst talent in the SEC every year out of high school and getting them into the upper mid level of the SEC each year.

If our talent is upper mid in the SEC he would have us right at the top.

Do I think he would have TN at a Saban level dominance? Absolutely not. But do I think Mullen would have TN hovering in that 9-11 regular season win # almost every year with a special season every 3-5 years? absolutely.

He would be a fantastic hire as long as he could build a good staff of recruiters and DC which I'm sure our budget and his reputation would facilitate.
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That’s wxactly where our expectation should be in all reality.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I've said this before, but hiring Dan Mullen would feel a lot like when LSU hired Les Miles. Everyone could see he was a very good coach at Oklahoma State but his record there (from memory) was good - but not earth shattering.

When he got to a program that offered everything needed to succeed everything clicked for him. I think a similar thing would happen for Mullen at UT.
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I agree completely. Mullen was my 2nd choice behind Patterson (because I have never thought Gruden and Kelly were realistic), and Patterson seems an even longer shot now that he is in the playoff hunt at a place he loves and is loved back. Hire Dan Mullen and I will be very happy.
 
#3,024
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Hiring Mullen wouldn't move the needle as far as excitement, but after the first season, I think it would be a much different picture. The guy is battle tested in the SEC West, with considerable success. That experience would make a seamless transition possible.
 
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