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Kingston Vol said:
He loves the attention in the moment and then afterwards makes it clear he was never really interested. It's happened after every job he's ever rumored to be "in talks" for.

Sure, all this stuff is irrelevant if the hire is right. Hell, it's message board fodder weeks before an actual job may even be open - chances are it's all irrelevant.
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How many of them don't?

Who was the last coach that was "in talks", didn't get the job, and then later in a public manner claimed that "he was interested or wanted the job"? I don't follow every search across the country but I would figure its not very many.

No different than if the boosters put a financial package together that a Gruden or high profile coach would agree to, and the AD/Admin didnt like the idea of a figure like him being the face of the university and going a different direction.
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
Sometimes I wonder if the academic administration really would be against a hire like Gruden. I mean if Beaver is right they were fighting tooth and nail to stop the hire. Why?
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This is what I want to know. Is it just the elitist feeling that academics doesn’t need athletics? I’m sorry but a healthy athletics, and especially football program, at TN equals healthy academics. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive. They can be synergistic. Athletics certainly will help academics financially, but healthy academics can help athletics, because some athletes want to go to elite academic schools, like Stanford.
 
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Vols4us said:
Time to sit back and consume mass quantities of cheeseburgers and Pepsi's (Diet Cokes for Bass) as we wait impatiently on the new villain Currie's next move. Will Big Jim win out again and choose his patsy for the next few years? Or will Thunder bring a hurricane down on Anderson's yacht to turn the Bama tide? So stay tuned through the Dish Network for our next episode of The Days of our Vol Lives.
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You were a top poster till you chose Pepsi over Coke
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
Sometimes I wonder if the academic administration really would be against a hire like Gruden. I mean if Beaver is right they were fighting tooth and nail to stop the hire. Why?
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They havent been working "together" in a long time.

Its been pretty obvious given the results.
 
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There is nothing academically holding back football success at TN. There are countless schools far tougher and demanding than us that are doing good or above their own traditional expectations.
 
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BeecherVol said:
They havent been working "together" in a long time.

Its been pretty obvious given the results.
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Looks like they've been winning the battle over the last 15 years or so. I mean I really don't understand what the core of the issues are. Having success on the football field and on the academic side of the university aren't mutually exclusive.
 
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HankHill said:
There is nothing academically holding back football success at TN. There are countless schools far tougher and demanding than us that are doing good or above their own traditional expectations.
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Exactly. It really is as simple as we've had bad football coaches for the last 9 years.
 
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A poster in the Gruden thread made this lol..

To the pit of misery! Dilly Dilly!

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I meant more towards the comments Beaver threw out there about the academic side of university being completely against the Gruden hire. Why would they be?
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
I meant more towards the comments Beaver threw out there about the academic side of university being completely against the Gruden hire. Why would they be?
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I don’t think they have any say it because the head football coach has no say so on academics. They are what they are. It’s really a non issue for both sides.
 
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Vols4us said:
Time to sit back and consume mass quantities of cheeseburgers and Pepsi's (Coke Zero for Bass) as we wait impatiently on the new villain Currie's next move. Will Big Jim win out again and choose his patsy for the next few years? Or will Thunder bring a hurricane down on Anderson's yacht to turn the Bama tide? So stay tuned through the Dish Network for our next episode of The Days of our Vol Lives.
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Fyp, but I’m down. Where’s the party?
 
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HankHill said:
I don’t think they have any say it because the head football coach has no say so on academics. They are what they are. It’s really a non issue for both sides.
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Wasn’t there something to the effect of Saban changed the academic class schedule to fit around practice schedules and things of that nature? I would assume that’s the academic effect they were alluding too.
 
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HankHill said:
There is nothing academically holding back football success at TN. There are countless schools far tougher and demanding than us that are doing good or above their own traditional expectations.
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That's not really the issue. Most everyone knows that both can be successful. The concern is the thinking of the academic side that they don't want it to work like that. This debate has been going on since I was in school from 98-02 when the Bensel Meyers scandal came up. There are usually some high level academics who don't care to pay $6 million for a football coach.
 
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