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Larry Smith. Retired. Be 70 in December. Worked in IT for 48 years with 3 different companies in Nashville. Now golf 3-4 times per week and live in Mount Juliet.

Been a member of the Tennessee Fund since its inception in 1986. A donor.

Have 14 season tickets in Section B. All about the 35 yard line. Have had season tickets since 1976.

Know many people in the athletic department. Don't talk with as much anymore as I did even 5 years ago. Over the 50 years (starting going in 1965) I have been going to UT games I have made hundreds of friends that are fans of Tennessee and much closer to many in the athletic department than even I am. That is the reason I don't have to stay plugged into the AD as much anymore. I rarely have to call people for information. Lot of people contact me and keep me up to date.

I have many friends in the media. Hubbs, Lewis, Brice, Rucker, Low, Callahan to name a few. Have known most several years and some a decade or more.

Was close with Coach Fulmer and assistants on his staff for several years. Still communicate with coach. Know many players and their families going back to the early 90s. Stay in contact with many.

I never post anything from a single source. Has to be more than one and those sources independent of each other. I have posted things in the last 20 years that UT has called me about. Multiple times. Stuff they didn't like.

That is my background.

this link is to my YouTube channel. Many videos I have (over 900 individual games) were given to me from UT's library. Enjoy them anytime.

Larry Smith
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On a side note, I didn’t realize the field of IT had even been around 48 years...what was a job in IT like when you first started?
 
Nuggs, from what I’ve seen, isn’t giving his opinion on what’s going on. He’s just posting everything he sees out there. Kind of a running update on all things said. It’s not necessarily him saying what’s happening.

Yep, anyone can submit anything and it gets posted via the Nugs Twitter account. So many here don't seem to understand that.
 
Unless there is something to the November 3rd date for Gruden being done with his son's HS season. The right "name" hire will save the early signers as long as he's announced prior to December.



Just speculation and my opinion.



This answers my earlier question... thanks


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Do some damn research. We were close last time and Hart Cheek ****ed it up.

Or, better yet, talk to someone who is relatively close to the program (not a true Insider, but someone who is close) and you might hear money was an issue.

Regardless, he was on the hook last time and something derailed it.
 
I've been thinking about this more and more. Anyone think there's a chance Currie wants to announce it during halftime at homecoming? Get 100k people stirred up to enjoy his big moment?



What a time to announce Gruden?s homecoming as well!!!!!


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What do you make of DTO report and LWS

I am still all Gruden but those two things confuse me

Don't know LWS...and DTO and I have spoken. We just haven't heard the same stuff lately. He may be completely correct, but nobody I've talked to says anything similar. I'm simply in the wait and see mode like everyone else. I think it's obvious, having stepped back for a couple of days that there is a lot of misinformation floating around....you just don't know whose.
 
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On a side note, I didn’t realize the field of IT had even been around 48 years...what was a job in IT like when you first started?

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I for one am tired of the bull**** on the hill. Any and all competent schools with a truly functioning ad would have canned his ass already. Coach after coach these idiots are running this program. I dont believe a fig fish is in the line, I think the Boosters want all the control on who gets hired. A big name will never kiss the boosters ass. Whish tells me we are fishing in the kiddy pool
 
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Hey UTVinE! Just curious, why does hearing the numbers bother you? We’re you told if someone mentions numbers they aren’t legit or is it just a pet peeve? Not being a jerk, just wondering...

It's because I don't like lies or liars. When I see someone bringing numbers at this point, I know for a fact they are either lying or have been lied to. But I've made my position clear, so now I just roll my eyes when it happens.
 
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Currie is hearing it from EVERYONE. National media, fans and former players. His own reputation is being tarnished and his indecisiveness is making TN look worse and worse everyday. He’s aware and can’t be doing this on purpose. Unless....

Unless...there is a method to his madness. You don't get to be the AD of two P5 schools without having some intelligence (Hammy notwithstanding) and how to make moves guaranteed to put the capital B in Boom.

Honestly, I think this is all calculated for maximum exposure and effect. Can't give you any backing on that, just a gut feeling.
 
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Yesterday evening someone posted that they have a friend who is the District Manager for the Pilot stores in the Knoxville are. He was told to remove anything dealing with Jones. Not saying that's true, I would have no idea. Surprised that people didn't jump all over that. If true, I would expect an announcement today or tomorrow...

I personally didn't get excited because that was a rumor on Twitter 2 days ago.
 
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Little dramatic aren’t we? :) “5* Generals of the Butchite defense army”? That’s the best you could come up with on your LONG SABBATICALS away from the board? :w00t: I can’t speak for Reader, but all I ever espoused was a fair chance for the coach we hired. Time is the final judge on success or failure and it’s verdict is rendered regardless of the talking heads squawking yay or nay from the beginning. Gonna post under this same screen name and acknowledge the good and try to understand the not so good with the next guy. Not going to let others tell me this means that and if I disagree, I can’t accept facts. :lol: This is a message board...not a think tank. We’re all full of crap. Hope you stay around longer this time Doyle...now go home and sleep it off, you’re drunk!

Yes, I am all about the drama.
I was just curious about your sidekick. He was such a condescending guy that seemed to start every post telling all of us Butch doubters how intellectually challenged we all were. I remember epic back and forth debates between him and sjt. Good times. I guess in the end sjt has come out looking like a prophet.
As far as my lengthy mia from the boards goes, I have been busy dealing with personal things in my life that were far more important than debating the merits of one Lyle Allen Jones. I am sincerely touched that you have missed me, though.
 
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it's because i don't like lies or liars. When i see someone bringing numbers at this point, i know for a fact they are either lying or have been lied to. But i've made my position clear, so now i just roll my eyes when it happens.

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Yes, I am all about the drama.
I was just curious about your sidekick. He was such a condescending guy that seemed to start every post telling all of us Butch doubters how intellectually challenged we all were. I remember epic back and forth debates between him and sjt. Good times. I guess in the end sjt has come out looking like a prophet.
As far as my lengthy mia from the boards goes, I have been busy dealing with personal things in my life that were far more important than debating the merits of one Lyle Allen Jones. I am sincerely touched that you have missed me, though.
Forgot about that ReaderVol kid. Was the most intolerable person on this board.
 
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A few of us have said the thought immediately following UGA is Bama +1 more loss means Butch is out. When he's out will be based on a whole lot of factors, and some simply are obvious to we fans. He's gone either during or immediately following the season. And that's based on real inside information, but my only source is now completely silent.

Strictly based on personal thought, I wonder if there is still a substantial booster or two hesitant to really open the wallet for BIG, and Currie will let it get worse to force them one way or the other.

If Currie is having to let this thing continue to rot in public view in order to get everyone on board than there is almost no hope to turn this around.
 
Don't know LWS...and DTO and I have spoken. We just haven't heard the same stuff lately. He may be completely correct, but nobody I've talked to says anything similar. I'm simply in the wait and see mode like everyone else. I think it's obvious, having stepped back for a couple of days that there is a lot of misinformation floating around....you just don't know whose.
Makes me feel a little better. Soon!
 
Don't know LWS...and DTO and I have spoken. We just haven't heard the same stuff lately. He may be completely correct, but nobody I've talked to says anything similar. I'm simply in the wait and see mode like everyone else. I think it's obvious, having stepped back for a couple of days that there is a lot of misinformation floating around....you just don't know whose.

As I stated yesterday, the info LWS brought sounds suspiciously like a canary trap. Specific info given to specific person (or persons) in order to track down leaks. The rationale of "he doesn't want to break friendships or possibly lose" just doesn't wash with a lot of people. But it is easily identifiable if/when it got out in public.

We are talking about an AD that went as far as to use fax machines outside the university to push correspondence. So, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see little tricks like this being used to figure out who's talking outside of class and who isn't.

Not dismissing anyone's information here, but the reasoning just didn't strike me as what a person who won a Super Bowl would be thinking.
 
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