Official Jon Gruden Thread XIX

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preacherwebb said:
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KeyVol14 said:
So meaning as long as he coaches Bama he can choose when to leave and still get a portion of his buyout.
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I'm not sure that's a fair assumption based on what SFD posted. Maybe ask her? :)

A better assumption would be that IF Butch has agreed to resign effective earlier this week, then all other terms and conditions of his departure from the program have already been agreed upon. Whatever those terms and conditions may be.
 
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vol.E said:
I'm not a guy who has any info on anything having to do with his royal Grudeness....BUT I have a feeling if all of this goes the way 'we' want, you'll see a different sort of HC in Gruden than we've been used to. I think he'll CEO; he'll be the closer in recruiting; he'll approve and implement film study, player evaluations, and game plan; and most likely will monitor player development at a high level as one would asses potential NFL talent (with MAYBE exceptions on QB development since he LOVES that piece)....

I.E. I don't see Gruden micro-managing the kids on a daily basis. He will hire a staff he trusts to do that. Which will help keep him out of prison...:)
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Agree 100%. I believe what he misses about the game the most is flim study, grinding with the guys, and of course winning. He will be enjoying his experience and purely trying to win instead of worrying about what is next. IF this goes down like this, this will be his last stop and he will not cede to many of the pressures.
 
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UTVolinExile said:
I'm not sure that's a fair assumption based on what SFD posted. Maybe ask her? :)

A better assumption would be that IF Butch has agreed to resign effective earlier this week, then all other terms and conditions of his departure from the program have already been agreed upon. Whatever those terms and conditions may be.
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Thanks man
 
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We may or may not get Gruden, but by gum, before this thread is finished, I swear to you all that preacherwebb will be able to successfully embed a gif!
 
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CookieVol said:
Agree 100%. I believe what he misses about the game the most is flim study, grinding with the guys, and of course winning. He will be enjoying his experience and purely trying to win instead of worrying about what is next. IF this goes down like this, this will be his last stop and he will not cede to many of the pressures.
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I think he's a bit of a hot-head...and that's good. With his time in the booth and the connections and (most likely) inflection he has had with the 'best of the best'...I'm betting he would be a DAMNED good CEO for a power 5
 
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EZE said:
It’s been a while, but I think employment contracts fall under the Statute of Frauds and have to be in writing to be enforceable. Maybe a Tennessee contract attorney can help.
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While I am by no means a contract attorney, I am an attorney (and this does not constitute legal advice). That being said, in other types of contracts, that is not necessarily the rule, even though it is the rule (I know that doesn't make sense, but honestly nothing really makes sense in the law). Example, a few years ago, a Tenn. Court of Appeals case, McKinnis v. Hammons, said that even without a written contract in a real estate transaction, the court could look to checks written by the parties and MLS listings showing a property was being sold, and signing of deeds by both parties as evidence that a contract existed, even though no sale contract was ever written. Now, no good real estate agent would ever not have a contract, but private parties who are less knowledgeable do things on the fly all the time. This effectively circumvented the Statute of Frauds in that particular case, and to my knowledge and according to Westlaw, it hasn't been overturned, but it caused quite the "wait a minute" moment in certain circles when it went down.

That being said, and having worked in firm that did employment law, employment contracts are a separate beast all together especially because Tennessee is an at will employment state. If there is no contract, an employer can fire you for whatever reason they want to give, and you can leave for whatever reason you want to (the Cliff's notes version). So if you want to outline specifically the expectations, obligations of the parties, requirements of the parties, and what happens if $h!t goes sideways, you need and want it specified in writing. And generally, verbal employment contract is a no no. Modifying an existing contract verbally is a no no. You always want to have everything written down and detailed and signed off as agreed upon. But there are always exceptions in law so if it can be documented enough that a "mutual understanding" was reached without a contract, it is always possible, however unlikely, that unwritten crap can get introduced and enforced.

And that ladies and gentlemen is the most law I have practiced this morning because of the rabbit hole that is this thread.

*caveat - I see I'm like 10 pages behind already...curse you thread...curse you.
 
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There is no way there is going to be more info for at least a while. Probably a week. The two options are that Gruden turned us down and there won't be any info. He will probably release a statement saying he isn't interested after Butch is fired if that is the case. Or he is interested. In which case you still aren't going to hear anything else until Butch is fired.

If the time line worked like some people in this thread expected to, with all of these hourly updates, Gruden would be well on his way to a second conference title before Butch even sees his pink slip.

If you're anxious I suggest taking a week off of this thread, and assuming there will be no major changes. But you're all grown ass adults so whatever you want to do.
 
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