Official Jon Gruden Thread XVIII

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RockyTopSC said:
Hey old friend.

John is very much like what I assume you have heard. I don’t know what he is doing but I do know that silence is a powerful leverage tool.

I also know the AD is locked down tight. I had surmised that only a small group 10 or so know exactly what is happening. That being said I had that conversation last night with someone that told me it was more like 3. That is as far as the AD is concerned. I have several good friends that are in that office. I will not say what they do as it would give them up. I can also tell you that they know “something” is happening and it has been stated if anyone hears anything and it is repeated their position will be re-evaluated. I am certain John does not want any lose lips that can be traced back to him (my opinion).
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One question from a negative viewpoint.... (I know guys, I know) if Currie runs such a tight ship, and based on your post and every thing I have heard and read here as well that seems to be a consensus....

That being true; so does Gruden and demands full control.... is Currie, in your opinion, the type of guy who would give up control to Gruden that I have heard is one of his demands?


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thebjd said:
I thought you took the brunt of the vitriol on VN when it didn’t happen last time. I was more impressed with your handling of the situation after it was over than when we were having all of our fun on Gruden island. I am happy you are back in the saddle this go around. I am glad to see the band back together.
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Hey thanks...that's very kind.
 
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Coastypop said:
One question from a negative viewpoint.... (I know guys, I know) if Currie runs such a tight ship, and based on your post and every thing I have heard and read here as well that seems to be a consensus....

That being true; so does Gruden and demands full control.... is Currie, in your opinion, the type of guy who would give up control to Gruden that I have heard is one of his demands?
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I see Peyton as the mediator for Gruden as coach and Fulmer and Holloway as providing administrative support for academics and compliance.
 
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Whatever you do, don't look at the other threads on this site concerning coaches. It's like an EMP attack consisting of nothing but energy vampires out there!
 
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Sara Clark said:
Hard to even entertain this question. I don't believe for one minute, knowing the history Kiffin has with TN, Gruden would even ask!
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Is it really that hard to imagine? Kiffin is one of the best offensive coordinators in the Nation. Gruden will want to assemble a staff of the best coordinators and position coaches money can buy.

I'll put it like this.. If you take Kiffin's history with Tennessee out of the equation.. I could easily see Gruden going after him.
 
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andywilson001 said:
Is it really that hard to imagine? Kiffin is one of the best offensive coordinators in the Nation. Gruden will want to assemble a staff of the best coordinators and position coaches money can buy.

I'll put it like this.. If you take Kiffin's history with Tennessee out of the equation.. I could easily see Gruden going after him.
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Kiffin doesn’t want to work FOR another coach...not happening.
 
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Coastypop said:
One question from a negative viewpoint.... (I know guys, I know) if Currie runs such a tight ship, and based on your post and every thing I have heard and read here as well that seems to be a consensus....

That being true; so does Gruden and demands full control.... is Currie, in your opinion, the type of guy who would give up control to Gruden that I have heard is one of his demands?
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That's a very good question. I'd like to know thoughts on that as well.
 
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Coastypop said:
One question from a negative viewpoint.... (I know guys, I know) if Currie runs such a tight ship, and based on your post and every thing I have heard and read here as well that seems to be a consensus....

That being true; so does Gruden and demands full control.... is Currie, in your opinion, the type of guy who would give up control to Gruden that I have heard is one of his demands?
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I believe any needed "control" issues were taken care of in the big hitter meeting the Sunday after the Georgia game.

I'm not sure he'd ask for "full control" anyway.
 
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WhiteRhino said:
Whatever you do, don't look at the other threads on this site concerning coaches. It's like an EMP attack consisting of energy vampires out there!
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FR, I just got back from there. Evidently, single A high school coaches making 15k a year is the "list" we're working from and basically the best we can do. :crazy:
 
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andywilson001 said:
Is it really that hard to imagine? Kiffin is one of the best offensive coordinators in the Nation. Gruden will want to assemble a staff of the best coordinators and position coaches money can buy.

I'll put it like this.. If you take Kiffin's history with Tennessee out of the equation.. I could easily see Gruden going after him.
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If Kiffin is a good fit with Gruden I'd welcome him back. He's a proven OC and I don't blame him one bit for leaving UT for USC - made total sense to me.
 
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andywilson001 said:
Is it really that hard to imagine? Kiffin is one of the best offensive coordinators in the Nation. Gruden will want to assemble a staff of the best coordinators and position coaches money can buy.

I'll put it like this.. If you take Kiffin's history with Tennessee out of the equation.. I could easily see Gruden going after him.
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My opinion has nothing to do with his qualifications, he's more than qualified. With that, your last sentence goes to my point, he has a history that cannot be erased.
 
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andywilson001 said:
Is it really that hard to imagine? Kiffin is one of the best offensive coordinators in the Nation. Gruden will want to assemble a staff of the best coordinators and position coaches money can buy.

I'll put it like this.. If you take Kiffin's history with Tennessee out of the equation.. I could easily see Gruden going after him.
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Kiffin just left the OC position of a national champion program to be a HC. He is not going to step back down unless he has to, and he likely has at least three years before that will happen. But, it is Kiffin, it could be less....
 
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volfan1631 said:
What exactly is full control
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I don't know....that's why I quoted it. I know there were some issues around the Thornton Center and admission standards. Those were the type of things where leeway and input seem to have been provided.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
I believe any needed "control" issues were taken care of in the big hitter meeting the Sunday after the Georgia game.

I'm not sure he'd ask for "full control" anyway.
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I'm not sure if I fully understand what is meant by "Full Control"

Is this strictly from a budget standpoint? Or does the AD/Boosters actually make team-related decisions? Like who to start, what offense to run, who to offer scholarships to, ect..

Might be a dumb question but I'm not familiar with how things work at the top.
 
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