Recruiting Forum Talk XXXIX

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Pete Thamel from Sports Illustrated reporting Butch is done but it won't be official until later in the season.

About as respected a guy as can be found nationally.
 
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Face said:
Not to go full nega.. but as things stand right now I’m not sure we’re a destination job. Can easily be made into one again.. but regardless of potential we’re not the team of the 90s.
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It's still Tennessee. We were at our best in the 90's but that wasn't the only decade that we had a lot of success as a program. To each his own but this job currently is easily a top 12 job.
 
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Tennessee athletic director John Currie would best be described as a hardline pragmatist. Currie is the opposite of emotional or reactionary. Put it this way: Currie wouldn’t have hired Bill Stewart after winning the Fiesta Bowl as an interim coach as West Virginia administrators once did.

So the weekly predictions that Tennessee will fire Butch Jones soon after emotional losses or listless victories are really just knee-jerk fodder and clickbait. Currie wanted nothing more than Jones to succeed upon arriving in Knoxville, and it would go strongly against Currie’s nature to execute a mid-season firing.

That said, Jones’ tenure at Tennessee can now be reduced to a timing issue. It’s going to happen, but not likely until deep into the season or immediately after it ends. The Vols lost 15-9 to South Carolina on Saturday to fall to 0-3 in the SEC. It marked their second loss this season on the final play of a game.

Tennessee didn’t score a touchdown for the second consecutive week, as Jones’ inability to find a competent offensive coordinator will go down as one of his biggest failures in Knoxville.

Tennessee’s SEC losses clearly illustrate Jones’ failings. The last-second losses to Florida and South Carolina reinforce the notion that Jones struggles in-game on the sideline. (Tennessee blundered the clock on its final possession, failing to spike the ball and wasting seven seconds). The Georgia game reminded Tennessee fans just how far they are from contending in the SEC East, never mind the league.

There’s little advantage to firing Jones now. Currie spent his final years as Kansas State’s athletic director preparing to someday replace Bill Snyder, a common-sense approach when your coach is in his 70s. Few athletic directors have worked harder over the years networking with up-and-coming coaches, getting to know established ones and generally navigating the intricate football coaching market. The aura of mystery that’s surrounded the end of Snyder’s tenure at Kansas State forced Currie to have a real-time understanding of the nuances of the coach hiring space. In other words, Currie is as prepared to hire a new coach as any athletic director and won’t be starting from scratch.

After Tennessee gets blown out at No. 1 Alabama on Saturday to fall to 0-4 in the SEC, don’t expect Currie to react. The end is coming for Jones, just not as fast as some may like.

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JacketVol said:
Don't know if you saw it but I apologized to you. The part about you being an azzhat sometimes. But, that is what makes you great.
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Kinda devolved out of nothing. You commented that we all have bad thoughts, I made a gif reply, you made another supporting statement, I threw a comment away about hoping you come back to us, you called me an azzhat and dared me to put you on ignore and I made an azzhat comeback. I thank you for your apology even tho it’s not necessary and I forgive you. :huggy:
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Pete Thamel from Sports Illustrated reporting Butch is done but it won't be official until later in the season.

About as respected a guy as can be found nationally.
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I am pretty sure that Bruce Feldman is closer to Butch. If he reports something, I think you can take it to the bank.
 
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Pete tweeted before that article came out (so I assume while he was writing it) that Scott Frost is going to get better job offers than Nebraska.

It's clear Pete has a good relationship with Currie and we are targeting Frost as a possible hire.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Pete tweeted before that article came out (so I assume while he was writing it) that Scott Frost is going to get better job offers than Nebraska.

It's clear Pete has a good relationship with Currie and we are targeting Frost as a possible hire.
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I just want Neyland to be hell on earth for opposing teams . Frost may be that guy to get us there.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Pete tweeted before that article came out (so I assume while he was writing it) that Scott Frost is going to get better job offers than Nebraska.

It's clear Pete has a good relationship with Currie and we are targeting Frost as a possible hire.
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Connecting dots on your own there and that is a stretch.
 
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Hypothetical thought question:

If we could beat Bama this week but we would have to keep CBJ next year would you take that?

I'm thinking I would take that all day. Any win against Bama is worth it. And given how bad we are it would probably cost Bama a playoff run if there are a bunch of teams with one loss. If UGA makes it through the season unscathed and loses to Bama in the SECCG I would think UGA would have to go instead of Bama because of the better resume.

Not happening, I know. But curious as to what the board thinks.
 
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While I will only believe it when Gruden is standing at the podium, the percentages will go up the longer that Butch hangs around. If Currie lets Butch hang around until the end of the year, then he has his man. One reason to fire him early is to get some official talks started.

Of course, I kind of thought that with Hart in 2012 but realized he publicly messed it up. I think Currie is much better at it.
 
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rjd970 said:
Hypothetical thought question:

If we could beat Bama this week but we would have to keep CBJ next year would you take that?

I'm thinking I would take that all day. Any win against Bama is worth it. And given how bad we are it would probably cost Bama a playoff run if there are a bunch of teams with one loss. If UGA makes it through the season unscathed and loses to Bama in the SECCG I would think UGA would have to go instead of Bama because of the better resume.

Not happening, I know. But curious as to what the board thinks.
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Yes.
 
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rjd970 said:
Hypothetical thought question:

If we could beat Bama this week but we would have to keep CBJ next year would you take that?

I'm thinking I would take that all day. Any win against Bama is worth it. And given how bad we are it would probably cost Bama a playoff run if there are a bunch of teams with one loss. If UGA makes it through the season unscathed and loses to Bama in the SECCG I would think UGA would have to go instead of Bama because of the better resume.

Not happening, I know. But curious as to what the board thinks.
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Can't see Bama beating Georgia in the SEC Championship game and getting passed over...
 
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rjd970 said:
Hypothetical thought question:

If we could beat Bama this week but we would have to keep CBJ next year would you take that?

I'm thinking I would take that all day. Any win against Bama is worth it. And given how bad we are it would probably cost Bama a playoff run if there are a bunch of teams with one loss. If UGA makes it through the season unscathed and loses to Bama in the SECCG I would think UGA would have to go instead of Bama because of the better resume.

Not happening, I know. But curious as to what the board thinks.
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I would take it but it wouldn't mean Butch would be back. He would use that as his selling point at another job
 
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