Recruiting Forum Talk XXXIX

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I keep hearing that Butch has lost the locker room. I didn't see that yesterday. The team put every ounce of effort into the game yesterday.

I think they are weeding out the players that they have “lost” thus the steady stream of injuries, etc.
 
I get the feeling that many over there understand that many fans are about to say screw it and move on. There is a lot of competition for entertainment dollars these days. I get the feeling many think like you and will say "Call me when you get serious", "I'll invest when you invest." I think the days of taking the UT fan base for granted may be slowly diminishing. Many are becoming wise to it. I think this hire is the biggest decision since the decision to fire Coach Fulmer. I also think the only way to have the fans on board with a huge amount of enthusiasm is to name a big name, well established coach. Remember, the casual fan doesn't know coaches like Frost, Venables, and Brohm.

If we were to pull a top guy like a Gruden, Patterson or Kelly I would put twice as much money into this program than I currently do on a yearly basis. I'm buying memorabilia and tickets to go see the vols play left and right, because I'll have hope and excitement once again. If they hire a Satterfield type, I won't. Pretty simple. I just hope more people will be that way.
 
No disagreement there. And if wishing death on another expedites that...just sound it out. See you when you come back to us. :wavey:

Not wishing death on anyone but if you tell me I get to 87 with relative good health till that point then I would take it and so would most under 80. Put me on ignore. Don't really care. You have been an azz hat plenty of times.
 
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I think they are weeding out the players that they have “lost” thus the steady stream of injuries, etc.

I don't know if this is related, but where is Byrd? if he's not "Lost",maybe a position change is in order.
 
I keep hearing that Butch has lost the locker room. I didn't see that yesterday. The team put every ounce of effort into the game yesterday.

I don't think he's lost everyone, but may have lost a significant portion. Could explain some players getting playing time over others despite better on the field production.
 
This. We were never going to even pursue him because of the NCAA stuff

But UCLA, school on that top 30 academic research list a few pages back is willing to turn over the reigns and take a chance on him?!?!? Pretty stupid on the part of UT admin if that's the case.
 
Not wishing death on anyone but if you tell me I get to 87 with relative good health till that point then I would take it and so would most under 80. Put me on ignore. Don't really care. You have been an azz hat plenty of times.

And I wished death on another poster...for shock value. Got an appropriate vacation. Don’t need to put you on ignore if this is what you’ve become. I’ll just do it manually. Really enjoyed our friendship (assumed on my part), I’ll leave you be. :hi:
 
John Currie is not going to fire Butch until he is good and ready.

And he isn’t ready yet. It won’t be today, tomorrow, this week or next week.

You are setting yourself up for disappointment.
 
I don't think he's lost everyone, but may have lost a significant portion. Could explain some players getting playing time over others despite better on the field production.

I'm not saying that Butch shouldn't be let go, but I disagree with the notion that the team is mailing it in on Butch. You can't convince me that this is a 2012 Kentucky game situation.
 
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I'm not saying that Butch shouldn't be let go, but I disagree with the notion that the team is mailing it in on Butch. You can't convince me that this is a 2012 Kentucky game situation.

And I'm not saying everyone has quit, but it may explain why some players aren't seeing the field.
 
John Currie is not going to fire Butch until he is good and ready.

And he isn’t ready yet. It won’t be today, tomorrow, this week or next week.

You are setting yourself up for disappointment.

We gonna be fishing in the deep water when it comes time to hire a guy? Or are we gonna do down to the creek to catch us a crappie?
 
I promise, it's a lot more involved and complicated than we know or would like to think.

Let me put it this way. We all seem to believe and have been assured that a change is happening. That it is enivitable.

This means the powers that be have decided that Jones tenure is not acceptable. It means we aren't accepting mediocrity, even in a era where reveunue has been high.

It means we are going to swing for the fences.

I'm going to be patient and see what happens. To me, there are only positive signs, and I'm a real pessimist

Amen. We as fans know less than 1% of the available information on this stuff. I believe 100% he will be fired and fired before November. I would totally take it today, but folks acting like today and next week are massively different are being a little impatient. JMO
 
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