Charlottesville white nationalists riots

[Grand Vol]

Someone said to me that these remembrances of the Confederacy belong in a museum, not on a pedestal. I think I agree; it makes no sense that we're still glorifying the Confederacy.

Oh, you can bet the museums are next on the hit list.

 

[NashVol11]

Oh, you can bet the museums are next on the hit list.

Yeah, I'm sure, just like legalizing gay marriage meant gay people were going to try to convert every straight person in America.

Until they didn't.

 

[Grand Vol]

Yeah, I'm sure, just like legalizing gay marriage meant gay people were going to try to convert every straight person in America.

Until they didn't.

Nice strawman argument.

Missing the "WTF this has to do with the subject at hand portion" though.

 

[lawgator1]

Oh, you can bet the museums are next on the hit list.

 

[Grand Vol]

I forgot, aren't you a defense lawyer?

 

[NashVol11]

Nice strawman argument.

Missing the "WTF this has to do with the subject at hand portion" though.

It's bull**** slippery-slope fear-mongering, not sure how you didn't notice that.

"Yeah, if we get rid of these monuments glorifying the Confederacy, then eventually we'll destroy all museums! And the Washington Monument! And then we'll burn all our history books and just forget everything!"

Ok. We'll see what happens I guess

 

[UT_Dutchman]

That map is wrong. They are missing a bunch of them.

Like the one at Gettysburg where a confederate soldier is buttstock slapping a union soldier..Mississippi monument I believe..

Heading there next week, I hope I get the chance to defend it!

 

[BowlBrother85]

It's bull**** slippery-slope fear-mongering, not sure how you didn't notice that.

"Yeah, if we get rid of these monuments glorifying the Confederacy, then eventually we'll destroy all museums! And the Washington Monument! And then we'll burn all our history books and just forget everything!"

Ok. We'll see what happens I guess

Nope, just the monuments to people who sought to divide the country in half rather than the people who founded the country.

 

[lawgator1]

 

[DancingOutlaw]

I am imagining a kind of day trader setup where you have four monitors on your desk. This is up on one, meme/gif search engine on another, CNN on third, and the fourth is running a live stream of the local highway waiting on car wrecks.

 

[1972 Grad]

I'm reasonable and rational.

But didn't vote for Trump.

I'm both and did vote for him.

 

[05_never_again]

Gotta change the name of Fort Bragg, right? Braxton Bragg was a Confederate general.

 

[lawgator1]

I am imagining a kind of day trader setup where you have four monitors on your desk. This is up on one, meme/gif search engine on another, CNN on third, and the fourth is running a live stream of the local highway waiting on car wrecks.

You left off the one for porn

 

[Grand Vol]

It's bull**** slippery-slope fear-mongering, not sure how you didn't notice that.

"Yeah, if we get rid of these monuments glorifying the Confederacy, then eventually we'll destroy all museums! And the Washington Monument! And then we'll burn all our history books and just forget everything!"

Ok. We'll see what happens I guess

You mean like others already calling for the removal of Thomas Jefferson statues or Columbus?

Yeah, we'll see what happens.

 

[volsarelife1]

Nope, just the monuments to people who sought to divide the country in half rather than the people who founded the country.

But LG said it's not about the statues

 

[1972 Grad]

Yeah, I'm sure, just like legalizing gay marriage meant gay people were going to try to convert every straight person in America.

Until they didn't.

You're just mad because none of them proposed to you.

 

[lawgator1]

But LG said it's not about the statues

It's not.

Let's say Trump was right and the statutes should remain up.

That has nothing to do with, and does not in any way justify, the actions of the neo-nazis and white supremacists last weekend. Or ever, for that matter.

Keep your eye on the ball. Don't let Trump's feeble distraction gimmick get you to go for the bright shiny trinket.

 

[NashVol11]

You mean like others already calling for the removal of Thomas Jefferson statues or Columbus?

Yeah, we'll see what happens.

"This stuff belongs in museums, not on pedestals"

"Museums are next"

"How do you know?"

"Because...there are people wanting to remove other things on pedestals"

Lol

 

[1972 Grad]

Bob Corker says Trump is not competent. About time more Republicans are catching on. Glad it's a Tennessean.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...s-not-shown-competence-needed-lead/577328001/

Short man syndrome. Trump is a foot taller than that little bastage.

 

[NashVol11]

You're just mad because none of them proposed to you.

Lol yep, still a touchy subject for me.

 

[Grand Vol]

"This stuff belongs in museums, not on pedestals"

"Museums are next"

"How do you know?"

"Because...there are people wanting to remove other things on pedestals"

Lol

And again, how long until museum pieces offend people?

You want to talk about slippery slopes?

 

[NashVol11]

And again, how long until museum pieces offend people?

You want to talk about slippery slopes?

It doesn't really matter whether museum pieces offend people, because museums generally exist to record history, not glorify it. That makes them different from giant statues, which is why the slippery slope thing is ridiculous.

 

[Grand Vol]

It doesn't really matter whether museum pieces offend people, because museums generally exist to record history, not glorify it. That makes them different from giant statues, which is why the slippery slope thing is ridiculous.

Of course it is...

 

[n_huffhines]

Richard Spencer was turned away from both the University of Florida and Texas A&M. He and his compatriots have had their Airbnb accounts canceled, their PayPal services dropped, and some have been fired from their jobs. GoDaddy, a web hosting company that airs commercials showing models pole-dancing on speed limit signs, has decided the racist Daily Stormer website is too immoral and dropped it. Charlottesville protesters are being shamed on Twitter.

At some point you amass too much blowback for it all to be the fault of “The Jew.” Yet the most pathetic post-Charlottesville episode comes courtesy of Christopher Cantwell, mincing skinhead and fascist provocateur. Following the mayhem that left Heather Heyer dead, Pulitzer-destined journalist Elle Reeve of Vice interviewed an unrepentant Cantwell in his hotel room. After he tossed several guns he’d been carrying onto a bed in a scene that would have given Freud a field day, Cantwell pronounced, “We showed our rivals that we won’t be cowed.”

“I think that a lot more people are going to die before we’re done here, frankly,” he mused. Why? “People die violent deaths all the time.”

Cut to three days later when Cantwell released a video showing himself on the brink of tears. He’s apparently still holed up in Charlottesville somewhere, afraid to leave, pining for protection. “I’m watching CNN talk about this as a violent, white nationalist protest,” he sniffled. “We have done everything in our power to keep this peaceful!” It’s a mystery why everyone’s ignored the Nazis’ Gandhi-like overtures, such as explicitly telling journalists people will die and murdering a woman with a car. Not to lionize CNN and GoDaddy, but this is how most of us respond in America, writing columns and putting away our wallets, eschewing violence in favor of sober rejection. The Patriots play this Saturday, after all. We’ve got better things to do than deign to throw rocks at evil losers.

http://rare.us/rare-politics/gettin...rom-winning-to-weeping-as-america-shuns-them/

 

[Grand Vol]

It doesn't really matter whether museum pieces offend people, because museums generally exist to record history, not glorify it. That makes them different from giant statues, which is why the slippery slope thing is ridiculous.

Let me ask you this. After seeing what's happened already with the desecration of statues and whatnot, do you really trust antifa and others to just suddenly say "nah, let's stop here guys, we're done."