Charlottesville white nationalists riots

I'm not one that considers the CW a war of Northern Aggression but it's funny how the view changes depending on which side of the coin you are on.

Everybody thinks that their ends justify their means. If your cause is "just" (and everybody down with the cause thinks that it is) then that means it is OK to do whatever it takes to achieve it.
 
I find it hard to believe that anyone was marching alongside guys with swastikas, arms extended, screaming racial epithets and Nazi slogans, just to register their displeasure with taking down some statutes.

The more I think about Trump's comment on that yesterday, the more ridiculous, ignorant, and misguided Trump appears. If that is even possible.

VB didn't mention anyone marching. He simply said not all people against the removal are Neo-Nazis.
 
I find it hard to believe that anyone was marching alongside guys with swastikas, arms extended, screaming racial epithets and Nazi slogans, just to register their displeasure with taking down some statutes.

The more I think about Trump's comment on that yesterday, the more ridiculous, ignorant, and misguided Trump appears. If that is even possible.

I can't believe that avowed liberals who claim to fight fascism are anti-Semitic.
 
I'm not surprised you wish to remain willingly ignorant. It is your personal safe place.

I choose to read the news rather than watch it. It prevents having to actually see liberal poons such as yourself wailing and moaning over things like Trump getting two scoops of ice cream while everyone else got one. Now..... close your eyes and imagine me giving you the finger 😳
 
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I find it hard to believe that anyone was marching alongside guys with swastikas, arms extended, screaming racial epithets and Nazi slogans, just to register their displeasure with taking down some statutes.

It's possible to go to such a thing and not march alongside and scream racial epithets.

Just like it's possible to go to a protest over a person killed by a police officer and not trash, loot, and burn down a neighborhood. Do you think everyone that went to protests in Missouri or Baltimore were all looters and rioters?
 
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I find it hard to believe that anyone was marching alongside guys with swastikas, arms extended, screaming racial epithets and Nazi slogans, just to register their displeasure with taking down some statutes.

The more I think about Trump's comment on that yesterday, the more ridiculous, ignorant, and misguided Trump appears. If that is even possible.

They didn't have to be marching obviously - I'm betting most attendees were not marching at all.

Same for the Antifa crowd - plenty of people who wanted to protest the WS crowd and/or support the removal of the statue who had no intent of supporting Antifa or engaging in violence against the WS groups.

Keep up the hate LG - paint everyone with your broad strokes to advance your ideology and demonize those who think differently than you. Surprised you weren't marching...
 
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Starting in the WH, Bannon and Miller. Trump has shades of it, though he so fricking stupid he doesn't realize it. David Duke. Alex Jones. Hannity when he's not on tv, and comes close when he is.

Start there. Get back to me.
Who made up the term, and decided those you mentioned would be in the group?
 
Probably anti-Gypsy too.

What I don't get is the liberal posters here want to lump the conservatives into the supporting Neo-Nazis position but when I accuse Antifa of being anti-Semitic, they don't say a word. Since they are unwilling or unable to defend their position and/or support Antifa, then I will assume that they are anti-Semitic too. Which makes them hypocrites to the liberal platform of tolerance.

Oh and everybody is anti-gypsy. Especially the European heroes of the left. That is a position that they can't defend as well. Their philosophy is "let's claim to be tolerant of everyone and accuse the other side of being intolerant, bigoted, racists." IMO they are projecting their beliefs on others because they know they are wrong.
 
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So lies the problem that one side will disagree with the outcome of a possible vote and they will begin to take the down the statue or destroy it, any way possible. All because that particular group didn't get their way. They do not believe in the process.
Sounds like the Presidential election.
 
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They didn't have to be marching obviously - I'm betting most attendees were not marching at all.

But if you watch/read CNN/MSNBC/or just about any other MSM, the only people there were violent white supremacists that assaulted people for no good reason at all.

The other group that showed up in masks with improved body armor or weapons? Well they're no one at all in particular. No need to talk about all that.
 
These statue haters shouldn't have a problem removing all slavery monuments, since it reminds them of slavery. Right?
 
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Funny enough is that this is what the left is thinking that the right wants to do. The left thinks that their brand is different and that they will be benevolent dictators. Their choices that they force others into are for the "good" of the people. They don't see the fallacy in stripping individual liberties. In the end, they are just as bad as their authoritarian predecessors, regardless of ideology.
 
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I find it hard to believe that anyone was marching alongside guys with swastikas, arms extended, screaming racial epithets and Nazi slogans, just to register their displeasure with taking down some statutes.

The more I think about Trump's comment on that yesterday, the more ridiculous, ignorant, and misguided Trump appears. If that is even possible.

Nobody's accusing them of marching with the Nazis dumbass, there are some actual southern historians who genuinely were dismayed at the thought of the statue being removed. Try and open that narrow slanted mind of yours to other possibilities.
 
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How many of the thousands of people there siding with the KKK, the neo-Nazis, and the white supremacists, do you think were there just because of their concern for preserving statues?

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How many of the thousands of people there siding with the KKK, the neo-Nazis, and the white supremacists, do you think were there just because of their concern for preserving statues?

Probably most were there to watch the ensuing ****-show.

But yes, I'd say many were there simply to show their disapproval of the statue being moved.
 
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I live less than twenty miles from the Chickamauga National Battlefield. I go there often. (I'll watch the eclipse from there next week.) It a large, beautiful and serene parcel of land. It has hundreds of monuments, statues, plaques and symbols of both the Union and Confederate armies. While mostly private money was used to pay for the statuary it was done so with the blessing of the US Government so that the history of the battle could be shared with people yet to come.

Are there any here who really believe we should go in there and remove all the Confederate material and just show and tell one side of the story? It doesn't matter that you agree with one side or the other. It only matters that you understand it.
I think the problem is the statues that are offensive to people of other races being glorified in courthouses, etc.

As far as places like Chickamauga and Gettysburg, the battle happened, it is a historical site. You go watch a movie about it at the museum. This is where those statues belong.
 
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