Charlottesville white nationalists riots

#901
#901
ClearwaterVol said:
I was talking about the position taken by the protesters, David Duke made a nice little sound bite.

As for Trump, he made the same mistake that Obama made with some of the BLM protests. He tried to reach out to all sides. As an aside, if I were Trump and someone tried to hijack my message... I would come out and condemn those hijack attempts very loudly and specifically. He has no problem calling people out. A nice tweet storm railing against David Duke and his ilk, but now he's silent.
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Obama didn't reach out to all sides. He perpetuated this nonsense every chance he had. He let armed Black Panthers intimidate voters, he had his stupid beer summit to condemn a white police officer, he then pushed the BLM agenda which is really just another George Soros funded anarchist group.
 
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#902
#902
davethevol said:
Obama didn't reach out to all sides. He perpetuated this nonsense every chance he had. He let armed Black Panthers intimidate voters, he had his stupid beer summit to condemn a white police officer, he then pushed the BLM agenda which is really just another George Soros funded anarchist group.
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And your view of Obama is blinded by hate (not calling you a racist) as the left's view of Trump. People hear what they want to hear. Right now I am hearing the left say that Trump had the opportunity to condemn the white supremacists and failed to do so. Condemnation was literally the first thing he said. However, he softened it a bit by seemingly saying others shared blame.

Where he has failed in my mind is his failure to denounce and call out the white supremacists, specifically David Duke. If a douche bag like that tried to hitch his wagon to mine... I would leave no doubt how I felt about him.
 
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#903
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ClearwaterVol said:
I was talking about the position taken by the protesters, David Duke made a nice little sound bite.

As for Trump, he made the same mistake that Obama made with some of the BLM protests. He tried to reach out to all sides. As an aside, if I were Trump and someone tried to hijack my message... I would come out and condemn those hijack attempts very loudly and specifically. He has no problem calling people out. A nice tweet storm railing against David Duke and his ilk, but now he's silent.
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David Duke is a zero like his followers.. the media is making him out and his followers as everyday whites.. grasping at straws
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
And your view of Obama is blinded by hate (not calling you a racist) as the left's view of Trump. People hear what they want to hear. Right now I am hearing the left say that Trump had the opportunity to condemn the white supremacists and failed to do so. Condemnation was literally the first thing he said. However, he softened it a bit by seemingly saying others shared blame.

Where he has failed in my mind is his failure to denounce and call out the white supremacists, specifically David Duke. If a douche bag like that tried to hitch his wagon to mine... I would leave no doubt how I felt about him.
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It is simple: he needs their votes.

Edit: I'm not saying he supports these groups, but he is a politician. It is re-election strategy.
 
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joevol320 said:
Hey LG. lets compare the damage these white racist did to the community verses what your black racists do to a community when they march. I would say the latter destroys more, but you're aren't going to complain because it help push your fascist ideas on this nation.
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What is with this tactic of the right trying to deflect blame all the time? What happened to being the "party of personal accountability"?

If anything negative happens to the right immediately all you hear is: But BLM! But Clinton! But Muslim Obama! But fascists!

Deflecting blame from neo-Nazis that murdered someone? Insanity.
 
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#906
#906
I want to see if I understand the story, I was busy this weekend and didn't have much time to catch up on it
A group of thugs had a rally
A group of thugs came to protest the other thugs' rally
An evil wacko drove a car through the second set of thugs' protest
 
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#908
#908
Can we get a list going of all the people, places, things that Trump must constantly disavow?
 
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#910
golfballs said:
That is just dumb. All of the 6,000 klan members are the key to his reelection.
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It's funny how you call him dumb only to go on to imply that there are only 6,000 members of the American electorate that are racially motivated and that all of those are Klansters.

I think you should stick to the argument of "be nice to the racists since they might lose their jobs" tack. As mind numbingly stupid as it is, the thought of the "starving families" is a heck of a lot more compelling.
 
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#911
#911
Both extremist sides got exactly what they wanted this weekend - violence and media attention. Its a shame people can't just ignore the infinitely small minority from both sides. Watch the news, you think there is a race war coming. Go out in public and you realize race relations are better than ever IMO.
 
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#913
#913
Septic said:
How about you start with the racist Nazi groups. I'd bet you'd be safe using them as a jumping off point.
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Then move to the black panthers, weather underground, Muslim brotherhood, tides foundation, CAIR, any other group Soros funds, etc.
 
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#914
#914
The breaking news update on CNN went from "Merck CEO quits Trump council over Charlottesville" to "Prominent black CEO quits Trump council over Charlottesville". Just so you know why it's important.
 
#915
#915
Before driving into the crowd, James Fields was at the nazi rally so why not call this what it is, a racially and politically motivated act of terror?
 
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#920
#920
Just why does the President refuse to condemn neo-Nazis, white supremacists, the KKK and others like them? Does he fear losing their support? Does Trump support them?

He certainly has no trouble calling out any person, group, or religion he doesn't agree with. Why do the open racist organizations get a pass? Are you in line with Trump on this?
 
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#921
MT LeConte said:
Just why does the President refuse to condemn neo-Nazis, white supremacists, the KKK and others like them? Does he fear losing their support? Does Trump support them?

He certainly has no trouble calling out any person, group, or religion he doesn't agree with. Why do the open racist organizations get a pass? Are you in line with Trump on this?
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Why are you an idiot?
 
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#924
#924
golfballs said:
That is just dumb. All of the 6,000 klan members are the key to his reelection.
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They are a component of the alt-right, which numbers far more than 6000 and he absolutely needs for re-election. I don't believe he supports them, but he isn't going to piss them off either. It is political strategy.
 
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#925
#925
Jxn Vol said:
Stating a fact is not a deflection.

You sir are a fool.
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There is the old saying about keeping one's mouth shut that is applicable to your post.

Stating "facts" and, for the purposes of this statement we'll just assume what you said are facts, can be deflecting. eg. Trump's inner circle meets with Russians. Trump says, but Bill Clinton met with Lynch on the tarmac. Everything is factual, but the two statements are not related. Classic deflection. So, stating a fact can be used as deflection. Might want to be careful about calling others fools.
 
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