D4H's 2017 NFL Draft Review (Best Picks, Best Drafts, and Predictions)

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bamawriter said:
Funny how you only discussed the UCLA game.
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Cause it was his most memorable recent game and it featured a LT that was drafted into the NFL. The Arizona State game from 2 years ago was just as spectacular it just wasn't as recent so my memory of it wasn't as great.
 
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#427
VolsSportsFan said:
Cool, keep wearing out those exceptions. Also Prescott has played 1 season, might want to pump those brakes before you put him in the same category as those. Many QBs were supposed to be awesome after a good rookie year and burned out quickly.
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Amusing that he uses Prescott as an example when he dismissed him before last season's draft. Had him below Kevin Hogan and several other prospects. Of course he had spent the previous season downplaying Dak because of his superior performance to his boy...schtick gonna schtick. :)
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
So your opinion of Dobbs comes down to one play?

The fact he's 2nd all-time in TDs and 3rd all-time in yards in school history doesn't matter? The fact he averaged more yards per game and more TDs per game than Peyton Manning for his career at Tennessee doesn't matter? The fact he led the best scoring offense in school history last year doesn't matter?

You're saying Dobbs won't make it as an NFL QB based on one bad throw?

That's not very good analysis of a player's projection from college to the NFL. Don't be surprised when you're abysmally wrong on this projection because you based it on one throw.
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No man, its not just that 1 throw. It was 1 example because I happened to just see it that morning. Dobbs made throws like that more than once.

Since you're so big on "watching the tape" here is every one of Dobbs ints at UT. A few of these come off of WR drops, and a few he gets his arm hit. But 85% of these are just really horrible throws and decisions. Just flat out awful. Its also worth noting he threw more INTs his SR year than he did he Soph and Jr year combined.

[Youtube]https://youtu.be/4uTbAJSJg_U[/youtube]
 
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butchna said:
Amusing that he uses Prescott as an example when he dismissed him before last season's draft. Had him below Kevin Hogan and several other prospects. Of course he had spent the previous season downplaying Dak because of his superior performance to his boy...schtick gonna schtick. :)
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Imagine that!
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You could say the same about Tom Brady. He went in the 6th round. Nobody thought Antonio Brown would be any good either as a 6th rounder. Joe Montana went in the 3rd round. Dak Prescott in the 4th round and so on.

People's opinions have been proven wrong time and time again. Just because you say something doesn't make it so. Even if the overwhelming majority of people agree with you that doesn't make it true.

Dobbs went in the 4th round so most people agree with you. I disagree with most people on Dobbs. I think he displayed the arm talent in college to not only start in the NFL but to be elite. We'll just have to wait and see who is right.
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How does this look ? Pretty good !
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Dobbs cards are on fire
 
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Watching the Lions-Colts preseason game and my guy Kenny Golladay is flashing big time. I got to him late in the process but once I saw his film I was blown away. Ended up pushing him to becoming my #3 rated WR after Corey Davis and JuJu Smith-Schuster. I thought he had pro bowl potential. Well he's showing that he's definitely got pro bowl ability today with a dominating performance thus far. He reminds me a lot of Brandon Marshall.

So be on the lookout for this name. Kenny Golladay. He's gonna blow up this year.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Watching the Lions-Colts preseason game and my guy Kenny Golladay is flashing big time. I got to him late in the process but once I saw his film I was blown away. Ended up pushing him to becoming my #3 rated WR after Corey Davis and JuJu Smith-Schuster. I thought he had pro bowl potential. Well he's showing that he's definitely got pro bowl ability today with a dominating performance thus far. He reminds me a lot of Brandon Marshall.

So be on the lookout for this name. Kenny Golladay. He's gonna blow up this year.
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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
 
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Burger said:
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
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I have a feeling my rankings on that first page are gonna look pretty good in 2019. It takes about 3 years to accurately judge a player and draft class. We'll know in 2019 if my rankings were prophetic or not. All I know is I feel really good about this class and my rankings. A lot of guys who have done well in camp thus far are guys I was high on.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I have a feeling my rankings on that first page are gonna look pretty good in 2019. It takes about 3 years to accurately judge a player and draft class. We'll know in 2019 if my rankings were prophetic or not. All I know is I feel really good about this class and my rankings. A lot of guys who have done well in camp thus far are guys I was high on.
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You are 1 for 7 in 2016 so far. If you can get it up to 20%, you won't be terrible anymore.
 
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#437
Dobbs #1 overall player ans Sutton at #4 lol that's all I needed to see

Just curious why not Derek Barnett? He actually has all pro potential
 
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#438
Brad Kaaya has looked really good so far. Very poised. Has gone through his progressions. Very accurate. He isn't mobile and doesn't have a big arm but I love his potential. I feel really good right now about rating him the #2 QB in this class before the draft.

Right now the 3 best QBs in this class are:

1. Joshua Dobbs (Steelers)
2. Brad Kaaya (Lions)
3. Deshaun Watson (Texans)

Really like what I've seen from these 3 so far.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Brad Kaaya has looked really good so far. Very poised. Has gone through his progressions. Very accurate. He isn't mobile and doesn't have a big arm but I love his potential. I feel really good right now about rating him the #2 QB in this class before the draft.

Right now the 3 best QBs in this class are:

1. Joshua Dobbs (Steelers)
2. Brad Kaaya (Lions)
3. Deshaun Watson (Texans)

Really like what I've seen from these 3 so far.
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  • Deshaun Watson (Clemson) – NFL Comp ► Teddy Bridgewater (INJURY RISK)

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The same Watson you had labled as a bust and not in your top 50 picks?
 
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volsarelife1 said:
The same Watson you had labled as a bust and not in your top 50 picks?
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This isn't the strongest QB class. 2 years of decent production by Watson might be good enough for #3 on the list.

The only guys I feel good about in terms of long term potential is Dobbs and Kaaya.

Watson's star will shine bright but not for very long. Sorta like Vince Young. Remember he was ROY and looked incredible early on before falling apart.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
This isn't the strongest QB class. 2 years of decent production by Watson might be good enough for #3 on the list.

The only guys I feel good about in terms of long term potential is Dobbs and Kaaya.

Watson's star will shine bright but not for very long. Sorta like Vince Young. Remember he was ROY and looked incredible early on before falling apart.
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It wasn't because of talent that Vince Young bust. It was because he was dumber than a box of rocks.
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
Dobbs #1 overall player ans Sutton at #4 lol that's all I needed to see

Just curious why not Derek Barnett? He actually has all pro potential
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According to D4H, Barnett isnt that good. Even though he broke a record of one of the greatest defensive players of all time, it doesnt matter. Barnett outplayed Myles Garrett in college and has in the NFL so far. But to D4H, Barnett is not that good.

D4H thinks Cam Sutton is the next Revis for crying out loud.
 
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Burger said:
It wasn't because of talent that Vince Young bust. It was because he was dumber than a box of rocks.
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Also troll touts Prescott of an example of how Dobbs will shine, yet fails to take into consideration that the same thing that happened to Vince Young (and RG3 and Kaepernick) might happen to Prescott. Prescott has played one year.

Amazing how inconsistent one person can be.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Here is my review of the 2017 NFL Draft.

Elite Players in 2017 NFL Draft (by position)

Quarterback
1. Joshua Dobbs (Steelers) – All-Pro Talent
2. Brad Kaaya (Lions) – Pro Bowl Talent
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[twitter]https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/904031093128663040[/twitter]
 
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#450
butchna said:
You're just begging for a James Harrison reference. :lol:
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Better yet Hall of Fame QB Kurt Warner.

This is good for Kaaya. With how much money they gave Stafford he would never play there. Better to catch on with a team with a less reliable or older starter so he can play sooner.
 
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