Charlottesville white nationalists riots

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DynaLo said:
Stereotype much? I hope you're not serious with that post. So, if my large amounts of ink are showing and I'm in a Harley tee do you automatically assume I'm an idiot without knowing me?
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Yes. But i give almost everyone a chance to prove my initial judgement wrong.
 
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DynaLo said:
Stereotype much? I hope you're not serious with that post. So, if my large amounts of ink are showing and I'm in a Harley tee do you automatically assume I'm an idiot without knowing me?
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You sound like a smart guy so you know exactly what large amounts of ink and a Harley tee will project to lots of people. It always cracks me up when people say don;t judge me for how I look but the reality is they chose that look specifically to be judged. That's okay, everybody picks a look and everybody instantly judges others based on their look.

If you have observed over time that 85% of people who look like X have a certain set of characteristics, then when you see a person who looks like X you are right to assume that there is an 85% chance the person will have those same characteristics. As long as you recognize the 15% chance that they may be different and give them the opportunity prove it, that's all you can do.

We all know and play that game, right?
 
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NashVol11 said:
You wrote out like 4 paragraphs about it hahahaha. Tf do you think this was?
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It was a sincere hope you'd actually use your brain for a change and read, comprehend and perhaps see the bigger picture rather than be one of the brainwashed masses that focus attention on symbols instead of the real problem.

I guess I was wrong since you didn't read or comprehend it.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Can I answer this???

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No, you're omitted from this game.

Take a Red Shirt on this one, you're obviously not up in arms over the racist flag waving which doesn't fit into other's agendas.
 
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luthervol said:
You sound like a smart guy so you know exactly what large amounts of ink and a Harley tee will project to lots of people. It always cracks me up when people say don;t judge me for how I look but the reality is they chose that look specifically to be judged. That's okay, everybody picks a look and everybody instantly judges others based on their look.

If you have observed over time that 85% of people who look like X have a certain set of characteristics, then when you see a person who looks like X you are right to assume that there is an 85% chance the person will have those same characteristics. As long as you recognize the 15% chance that they may be different and give them the opportunity prove it, that's all you can do.

We all know and play that game, right?
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Doesn't your side preach against stereotyping people?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Can you imagine how screwed in the head you'd have to be to actually attend something like this?

There's a 100% chance that all hell breaks loose.... people hit in the head with fists, sticks, rocks.... fools wearing bike helmets and a homemade Capt America shields...... wtf?..... who actually does this?
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People who go to this crap are almost certainly not from that town and B) looking for trouble and 3) 100% douche-bag.

Decent folk wouldn't be anywhere near that circus (unless they're working i.e. rendering first aid or applying county issued bracelets.) Therefore, I find it hard to feel bad for anyone who gets hurt, including the journalists looking to feed the machine.
 
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Septic said:
People who go to this crap are almost certainly not from that town and B) looking for trouble and 3) 100% douche-bag.

Decent folk wouldn't be anywhere near that circus (unless they're working i.e. rendering first aid or applying county issued bracelets.) Therefore, I find it hard to feel bad for anyone who gets hurt, including the journalists looking to feed the machine.
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You make so much sense on Sunday morning. Can we limit you to a once per week contribution?
 
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Septic said:
People who go to this crap are almost certainly not from that town and B) looking for trouble and 3) 100% douche-bag.

Decent folk wouldn't be anywhere near that circus (unless they're working i.e. rendering first aid or applying county issued bracelets.) Therefore, I find it hard to feel bad for anyone who gets hurt, including the journalists looking to feed the machine.
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I hate it when you get all logical and stuff and I'm forced to like your posts.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, you're omitted from this game.

Take a Red Shirt on this one, you're obviously not up in arms over the racist flag waving which doesn't fit into other's agendas.
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A month or so ago, I got battered in here for people over-reacting to a piece of cloth called the American flag. Now, I call the Confederate flag a piece of cloth and the level of outrage is no where near the same. Yet my point about both is the same. It amazes me how grown adults (on both sides) can get so butt hurt over flags, symbolism and other things that don't really matter.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Doesn't your side preach against stereotyping people?
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My side (or at least I do) preaches against assuming your stereotyping is correct and not having the wisdom or willingness to look deeper and adjust your stereotypes as things change over time...........big difference.
 
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Grand Vol said:
It was a sincere hope you'd actually use your brain for a change and read, comprehend and perhaps see the bigger picture rather than be one of the brainwashed masses that focus attention on symbols instead of the real problem.

I guess I was wrong since you didn't read or comprehend it.
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Unless you mean "pawn of hatred" in a positive way, you are saying I should simply reject my dislike of the flag and stop disliking it.

Does that work for you with other grown adults? "Hey, I know you said you don't like broccoli, but you should reject your dislike for it otherwise you're a bad person and stuff." "Hey, I know you said you're not into anal, but you should just reject that." Lol
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
A month or so ago, I got battered in here for people over-reacting to a piece of cloth called the American flag. Now, I call the Confederate flag a piece of cloth and the level of outrage is no where near the same. Yet my point about both is the same. It amazes me how grown adults (on both sides) can get so butt hurt over flags, symbolism and other things that don't really matter.
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I'm a southern white male and the confederate flag offends me, but I'm not for banning it in general. If individuals want to wear, carry, or display it; I say go for it. It's like wearing a big button that says "I'm stupid, you may wish to keep your distance." I appreciate the heads up.
 
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The Nazis are celebrating Trump's reaction to Charlottesville.
 

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AM64 said:
BS, you're upset over the Confederate flag because you were taught to be. The real issues happened well before you came along.

You talk about fairness, equality and so on; but it really means that you and anyone thinking like you can say what you want. However you are intolerant of someone who thinks differently. When you get right down to it, waving a Confederate flag is an expression of free speech - remember libs worked to make actions such as flag burning "speech".

So the next question is if you remove statues, what's next? Book burning, complete revisionist history? How do you prevent something from happening again if all reminders are eradicated. Of course, if you delete any counter argument and only show one side, then it becomes no different from Communist reeducation camps.

A little thought. A statue commemorating history is by its very nature "speech" under the modern day rule, so how is forced removal not government suppression of "free speech"? Are you sure you really want to start down that road?

Finally, and probably the most important is the fact that you cannot judge the past by today's standards. The founding fathers and this nation accepted slavery because it was an accepted norm of the day - they certainly didn't invent it; and the slavery that exists up to today is probably more common in Africa than anywhere else.

Perception is often only a matter of who won. If you were saluting the Union Jack today, this argument would be about Washington rather than Lee.
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Thank God I have you here to tell me what I believe and why.

Where have I said free speech should be suppressed? That people shouldn't be allowed to wave a Confederate flag? Did I not JUST say that the statue didn't really bother me?

I'll wait
 
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