Maybe I'm just silly in believing that America was built into a strong power by the very immigrants that have been coming here over the generations of our history. They've fought in our wars, started businesses, paid taxes, brought awesome new foods, arts, culture, scientific advancements, become doctors, etc. I mean, me personally, yeah born and raised here. My ancestors, however many generations removed, one side was from Wales. Not sure about the other, though I'm 99% sure I don't have any Cherokee in me. Functioning, taxpaying member of society here. Never been paid for any of my independent McCain or Johnson votes. Can't imagine who the D's would trot out in 2020 that wouldn't get serious consideration from me if this goat rodeo runs for re-election though. I'm not some open boarder nut job, obviously there needs to be vetting, but I still believe in the idea of America. I believe all the different people of America are what makes America great already. I think that government spending is out of control, not because we try to take care of the lesser in our society, but because we spend ungodly amounts on defense. If that makes me a retarded pathetic Dem, I can still sleep easy tonight with you labeling me that.