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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Wasn't Bravos founded by slaves and a very anti-slave state? Not sure why the Iron Bank would invest in the slave trade.

It looked like Bronn was with Jamie so I assume he won't be saving the bad kitty.
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I didn't like that either. No Braavosi would have anything to do with slavery. Not even the Iron Bank. Other than that I really enjoyed the show. I wondered how they would make it difficult for Dany to win and they just had Tyrion make a stupid plan.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
I liked it actually. I thought it was one of her better scenes of the series.
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i feel like she lost the conversation. She kind of showed her ass, in the initial meeting, as a self glorified boob. In my opinion, not the way you go about meeting a person like Jon Snow who has his own incredible feats. He just doesn't brag about it like an elitist twat. I like dany and thought she went back to the Dany she needs to be after she spoke with Tyrion.
 
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I don't get why they give up Casterly Rock if it's impenetrable and I don't get why taking out the Tyrells was so easy. I thought the whole point of the Tyrells was their army was so big. Seems like some writing short cuts.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I don't get why they give up Casterly Rock if it's impenetrable and I don't get why taking out the Tyrells was so easy. I thought the whole point of the Tyrells was their army was so big. Seems like some writing short cuts.
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The big secret of the Lannisters was they ran out of gold a long time ago, but there was a lot at High Garden (which is why the Tyrells paid for the wedding and helped fund the defense against Stannis). Consequently, Casterly Rock was worthless except for family memories.

They needed to get rid of the Tyrells and get the gold to pay back the Iron Bank. The Tyrell Army was never known for much more than flowery armor, so it was easy for the Lannister Army to defeat them.

I can understand why Tyrion didn't know the family was broke, but it seems like that was a key piece of intel that Varys should have known. The Queen of Thorns should have mentioned it during the war council as well. If they knew there was no gold at Casterly Rock, I think they may have tried to reinforce High Garden instead or gone straight to King's Landing.
 
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butchna said:
She had already lost her family. Everything she had done since the wildfire, was about revenge against the Lannisters. She got that last little poke as she faded into painless death.
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Understandable. Although I think the scene would have been 3x more epic if we didn't know that she was behind Joffreys murder. I feel like if that was unknown, that would have been a great plot twist. And I'm sure some people probably missed that part and felt the shock anyways.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I don't get why they give up Casterly Rock if it's impenetrable and I don't get why taking out the Tyrells was so easy. I thought the whole point of the Tyrells was their army was so big. Seems like some writing short cuts.
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This season has been a bit slap dash. Can't blame them though.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I don't get why they give up Casterly Rock if it's impenetrable and I don't get why taking out the Tyrells was so easy. I thought the whole point of the Tyrells was their army was so big. Seems like some writing short cuts.
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The Tyrell army was sans the Tarley forces and whatever other bannermen turned coat. My guess is they were pretty much limited to their personal household knights and castle guard.
 
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On Bran - seems like the show is stressing the point of his transformation from Bran Stark to the Three-Eyed Raven... notice how robotic he was with his reunion with Sansa? Are they suggesting he will have to give up his identity completely to fully become the 3ER?
 
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n_huffhines said:
I don't get why they give up Casterly Rock if it's impenetrable and I don't get why taking out the Tyrells was so easy. I thought the whole point of the Tyrells was their army was so big. Seems like some writing short cuts.
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Tywin told Certs a long time ago that the mines had petered out, thus vastly decreasing the value of the Rock, and Randall Tarly was pretty much the sword arm of the Tyrells, and he turned on them, thus fatally weakening the Tyrell army. That was the whole point of the big meeting with Certs and Jaime last week.
 
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YorkVol said:
The big secret of the Lannisters was they ran out of gold a long time ago, but there was a lot at High Garden (which is why the Tyrells paid for the wedding and helped fund the defense against Stannis). Consequently, Casterly Rock was worthless except for family memories.

They needed to get rid of the Tyrells and get the gold to pay back the Iron Bank. The Tyrell Army was never known for much more than flowery armor, so it was easy for the Lannister Army to defeat them.

I can understand why Tyrion didn't know the family was broke, but it seems like that was a key piece of intel that Varys should have known. The Queen of Thorns should have mentioned it during the war council as well. If they knew there was no gold at Casterly Rock, I think they may have tried to reinforce High Garden instead or gone straight to King's Landing.
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You said it better than me, but you missed that the Tarlys turned(which obviously means all their vassals also) thus fatally weakening the Tyrell forces.
 
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SWIL said:
On Bran - seems like the show is stressing the point of his transformation from Bran Stark to the Three-Eyed Raven... notice how robotic he was with his reunion with Sansa? Are they suggesting he will have to give up his identity completely to fully become the 3ER?
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Yeah that was weird, and he completely weirded out Sansa too. I don't understand why having his abilities would make him unemotional and unloving.
 
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utvols88 said:
I would guess it's because all that has and will happen is definite and he sees the structure of time and emotion differently now. or something.
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Yeah..that is true. It really sucks though just to turn him into a soulless fate robot. The Starks have all really had the screws put to them individually.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Yeah..that is true. It really sucks though just to turn him into a soulless fate robot. The Starks have all really had the screws put to them inividually.
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He didn't act that way in the beginning of this season, did he? Or has he just not been shown enough for me to notice it?
 
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SWIL said:
On Bran - seems like the show is stressing the point of his transformation from Bran Stark to the Three-Eyed Raven... notice how robotic he was with his reunion with Sansa? Are they suggesting he will have to give up his identity completely to fully become the 3ER?
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He's pretty much dead inside, he's seen literally everything and doesn't know how to handle with it emotionally, he's felt so much at once that now he's feeling nothing. Grief, pain, relief, etc. it's all pointless to him. Bran has seen some crazy s*** and a lot of it.
 
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So I'll continue my "communications problems" rant. Some news is instantly known across the 7 kingdoms yet Bran shows up a Castle Black quite some time ago and nobody in Winterfell knows about it until he shows up there. Bran specifically said he needed to talk to Jon Snow but no one sent a message he was at Castle Black?

Oh well
 
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