Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXIV

[BigZiti09]

The increased revenue more than made up for the 2 extra mouths to feed. Mizzou bringing in the KC AND STL markets alone paid for themselves with plenty left over. If all you care about is doing just fine and not improving from a business/revenue standpoint, then yes, it was a needless expansion.

At some point you lose what made it special. See NASCAR.

 

[Vols4us]

At some point you lose what made it special. See NASCAR.

This is how I felt about it. Not just with the SEC, but with the push across CFB and the P5's. Now that ESPN is in decline, the financial model really doesn't work that pushed it all to happen. Can't help but be adjustments in payouts coming down the line.

I doubt many administrators wanted to see that. Add in the over saturation of meaningless games to help justify it all.

Like NASCAR as you said.

 

[jave36]

This is how I felt about it. Not just with the SEC, but with the push across CFB and the P5's. Now that ESPN is in decline, the financial model really doesn't work that pushed it all to happen. Can't help but be adjustments in payouts coming down the line.

I doubt many administrators wanted to see that. Add in the over saturation of meaningless games to help justify it all.

Like NASCAR as you said.

ESPN total financial health has nothing to do with our revenue. Only the profitability of the SECN, which is doing well. And 12 teams is no more special than 14. Our dominance is what made us special, and hiring a TON of inexperienced, unproven coaches, along with Saban dominance, along with other leagues like B10 hiring elite, proven coaches are what has led to our decline. Expansion has literally 0 to do with it.

 

[BigZiti09]

ESPN total financial health has nothing to do with our revenue. Only the profitability of the SECN, which is doing well. And 12 teams is no more special than 14. Our dominance is what made us special, and hiring a TON of inexperienced, unproven coaches, along with Saban dominance, along with other leagues like B10 hiring elite, proven coaches are what has led to our decline. Expansion has literally 0 to do with it.

We aren't on a decline. Good grief.

12 > 14

 

[franklinpence]

Anyone know what this means? 2seasons passes to all games this year? What is wrong with KNS? Do they think football season is a theme park?

 

[Rishvol]

Anyone know what this means? 2seasons passes to all games this year? What is wrong with KNS? Do they think football season is a theme park?

If you subscribe to the newspaper then you have a chance to win 2 season tickets

 

[InVOLuntary]

Ok if he turned the corner after "learning" the position during those first 4 games should he have had more than 3 TFL last year?

More than 1 sack?

Or maybe he is still learning?

Or maybe just over rated after one monster juco game?

He was playing DT, not his normal position for much of the season.

 

[BruinVol]

He was playing DT, not his normal position for much of the season.

When did he make that move?

Wasn't it just the last few games after Tuttle and McKenzie got hurt and after Obrien was lost?

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Anyone know what this means? 2seasons passes to all games this year? What is wrong with KNS? Do they think football season is a theme park?

If I attend one UT game after 3:00 pm, do I get the next day free?

 

[InVOLuntary]

When did he make that move?

Wasn't it just the last few games after Tuttle and McKenzie got hurt and after Obrien was lost?

I'm not sure but it was a significant portion of the season. I don't think he was all keen on it either which I think probably affected his performance.

 

[BruinVol]

I'm not sure but it was a significant portion of the season. I don't think he was all keen on it either which I think probably affected his performance.

I don't think he had the best attitude.

I think it was South Carolina or after when he moved

 

[jave36]

We aren't on a decline. Good grief.

12 > 14

You were the one saying how it's not as good anymore now that we're at 14

 

[BigZiti09]

You were the one saying how it's not as good anymore now that we're at 14

I said 12 is better than 14.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I don't think he had the best attitude.

I think it was South Carolina or after when he moved

I think he was working at DT earlier than that but maybe limited. Same with Kyle Phillips. I don't think either were thrilled with it.

 

[BruinVol]

I think he was working at DT earlier than that but maybe limited. Same with Kyle Phillips. I don't think either were thrilled with it.

He played some inside in the nickel/dime all year I know.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

If I attend one UT game after 3:00 pm, do I get the next day free?

Next day yes; next game no sir.

:hi:

 

[jave36]

I said 12 is better than 14.

My bad if I misunderstood, but it seemed like you were implying that the league is worse off because of the expansion, i.e declined

 

[franklinpence]

If I attend one UT game after 3:00 pm, do I get the next day free?

Would definitely go for a fastpass at concessions and restrooms.

 

[fearsvols]

Like I said. I think phillips is more key to the DL. Kongbo is going to be ok not great.
We need phillips to equally "ok". I agree with Breaker that Taylor needs to be the lead guy.

Not taking away the importance of fe, i really think dt is going to be the deciding factor on how the defense goes this year. If Vickers, Tuttle,Kmac and Picou can hold the middle down the defense will be fine.

 

[BruinVol]

Not taking away the importance of fe, i really think dt is going to be the deciding factor on how the defense goes this year. If Vickers, Tuttle,Kmac and Picou can hold the middle down the defense will be fine.

I agree that DT is more important. Not sure which one has the bigger ? Though.

 

[MeandMrsJones]

It's not what you KNOW. It's what you SAY you know. :lol:

Ive like a thousand of butchna's posts. However, this deserves a thousand likes!

 

[therickbol]

If I attend one UT game after 3:00 pm, do I get the next day free?

And free sunscreen and soda?

 

[Rishvol]

And free sunscreen and soda?

You're just asking too much. Don't you know they barely get by with the $7 soda as it is.

 

[Vols4us]

ESPN total financial health has nothing to do with our revenue. Only the profitability of the SECN, which is doing well. And 12 teams is no more special than 14. Our dominance is what made us special, and hiring a TON of inexperienced, unproven coaches, along with Saban dominance, along with other leagues like B10 hiring elite, proven coaches are what has led to our decline. Expansion has literally 0 to do with it.

Maybe that is your view of it. But the SEC receives revenue sharing from more that SECN televised events. Much of the total revenue is received from other SEC football, basketball, and NCAA championship events televised on ESPN's networks. When the number of subscribers goes down as strongly as it has, the amount charged advertisers with the televised subscription fees trends down as well. Less watchers paying the freight, lower ratings, lower revenues. Which has led to the massive layoffs there. When it settles out it will also prove what Ziti posted, 12>14 IMO.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

When did he make that move?

Wasn't it just the last few games after Tuttle and McKenzie got hurt and after Obrien was lost?

They were playing him situationally inside (same a season they've done with Phillips the past few years) from week one. He made the move full time around the USCe game.