Anti-Trump Hysteria and Silliness

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luthervol said:
That poll has little to do with financial impact. It's a statement of the world's view on Trump with regards to other issues....immigration, inclusion, environment, security, world view, and the treatment of traditional allies and foes.
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That post and poll had to do with Trump's popularity. My point was that financial impact and global agenda has an overarching impact on popularity.
 
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luthervol said:
That poll has little to do with financial impact. It's a statement of the world's view on Trump with regards to other issues....immigration, inclusion, environment, security, world view, and the treatment of traditional allies and foes.
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Generally I find it a good thing when our POTUS is unpopular around the world. It's probably a good indication they aren't getting everything they want from us.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I can't retire at 53 because I post here a lot?
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No you can't retire comfortable because you stated such on this site. If you spent more time concentrating on working then things might be better for you.

And LG, I don't hate you, or dislike you, and besides your politics I have nothing bad to say about you. But, the point was that for someone who likes to talk of the "other's" that maybe it is something you shouldn't do unless you have your ducks in a row. I'll say it was an underhanded comment, but, the point remains.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I pointed out the difference in the judgments. Fail to comprehend the difference if you choose.

So, in paragraph one, you clarify that you weren't chastising him for generalizing, but just for being judgmental.

In paragraph two, you clarify that you weren't generalizing, but were just being judgmental.

lol

You seeing it yet? Wait for it... Wait for it...







And there it is.
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Good grief...... you conveniently forgot to highlight the whole sentence. Pick up at the word "and" and it may make more sense.


Wait for it......wait a little longer.....keep waiting

Still not there? Wait.......

Wait.....

Go run an errand.....come back and wait.....


See it yet? wait....




And there it is...(a little childish don't you think)
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Please explain.
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I believe my points per his global popularity, as it connects to his platform of "America-first" has been pretty clear. My expanded point has been that I don't necessarily believe global popularity is the best factor on which to judge our president.

I'm just asking if you're disagreeing with my points, or taking the conversation in a new direction.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The problem is that Trump supporters feel beleaguered. That everyone is advancing but they are going nowhere, and it cannot possibly be their own fault.

So naturally, they blame everyone else for their problems. And the more the outside world hates Trump, the more that feeds the resentments of Trump voters.

They love that people think Trump is an idiot. They don't even care if he is. He is the vessel through which they express all of that frustration.
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:crazy: Winner of the Dumb post award.
 
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luthervol said:
Good grief...... you conveniently forgot to highlight the whole sentence. Pick up at the word "and" and it may make more sense.


Wait for it......wait a little longer.....keep waiting

Still not there? Wait.......

Wait.....

Go run an errand.....come back and wait.....


See it yet? wait....



And there it is...(a little childish don't you think)
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Which "and"? Did you mean "or"?

Are you claiming that that post was not, in fact, judgmental?

lol........

You declare some as "completely average and low achieving people lacking any major successes" and then condemn them for passing judgement on others. How arrogantly hypocritical can one be?

Where's your humility, civility, and simple common courtesy?

Physician, heal thyself.
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Are you going to seriously claim that you weren't being judgmental? Are you actually trying to make the case that you're not a great, big hypocrite on the very issues you called him out on?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I believe my points per his global popularity, as it connects to his platform of "America-first" has been pretty clear. My expanded point has been that I don't necessarily believe global popularity is the best factor on which to judge our president.

I'm just asking if you're disagreeing with my points, or taking the conversation in a new direction.
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I agree with the point that the best barometer of how well a president is doing might not be global popularity.

I disagree that he is truly putting America first.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I agree with the point that the best barometer of how well a president is doing might not be global popularity.

I disagree that he is truly putting America first.
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I'm not sure I've made the case that he's actually putting America first; mostly just that that's the stump he's run on, and he's actively changing global policy per America footing the bill.

I'll look back through my posts and see, but I'm not sure I actually ever said that he's actually putting America first.

To any extent, my point doesn't depend on his motives.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'm not sure I've made the case that he's actually putting America first; mostly just that that's the stump he's run on, and he's actively changing global policy per America footing the bill.

I'll look back through my posts and see, but I'm not sure I actually ever said that he's actually putting America first.

To any extent, my point doesn't depend on his motives.
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Wasn't accusing you of such. I was simply stating that I denied that, at its core, his platform actually accomplished its stated goal and that, perhaps, the stated goal wasn't actually his true goal.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Wasn't accusing you of such. I was simply stating that I denied that, at its core, his platform actually accomplished its stated goal and that, perhaps, the stated goal wasn't actually his true goal.
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Maybe. I don't know. I was just pointing out why that poll was a stupid accusation against him, not trying to start an overall defense of his policies. I don't want to defend his policies/motives, and there's plenty of discussion about his policies.
:)
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Maybe. I don't know. I was just pointing out why that poll was a stupid accusation against him, not trying to start an overall defense of his policies. I don't want to defend his policies/motives, and there's plenty of discussion about his policies.
:)
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I agree with you that global popularity and opinion is an unreliable indicator of presidential success.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
Hehehe, you're being banal.
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luthervol said:
There's a lot of truth in this. Of course, as evidenced by the responses to your post, Trump supporters will never see it this way. It's a strange time in which we find ourselves.
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Yes. Yes it is. It is a strange time when the people who complain the most, who want everyone else to give them something, somehow think other people are "not getting ahead"..

Thats the attitude that reinforces surveys that show liberals to be a miserable lot and conservatives to be much happier.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Which "and"? Did you mean "or"?

Are you claiming that that post was not, in fact, judgmental?



Are you going to seriously claim that you weren't being judgmental? Are you actually trying to make the case that you're not a great, big hypocrite on the very issues you called him out on?
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It wasn't the word "and". My mistake. I think it was "in the same sentence" or something to that effect. The point was that he was being judgmental in the same sentence in which he was condemning people for being judgmental.

And no, I wasn't claiming that my post was not judgmental. I can be very judgmental. But yes I am claiming that I'm not a great, big hypocrite. We all have a degree of hypocrisy at times and I'm sure we assign different degrees to different people. I would also venture to guess that we all view ourselves as less judgmental and hypocritical than many others view us. I'm 100% certain that that is the case in the way you and I view one another.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
The point was that Trump's platform was "screw everyone else; I'll make our deals for America's benefit".

He's threatened most of our treaties, I suspect to create a more favorable environment for the US to renegotiate them. He's pulled out of the Paris agreement, saying that it wasn't beneficial for America.

He seems to be on a tour to overturn all the agreements made before him that have us--the US--paying the tab for most of what's going on.

And, since Trump was elected to represent his constituents (the US), it's not a very good measure to judge him strictly on global popularity. Any and every president could buy global popularity with our tax money.
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I'm curious to know how much of the total US debt is due to our giving the world foreign aid "money" made up out of thin air. "Money" we do not have hope of repaying.

National Debt Total
$174,443 per taxpayer.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Hey OC, whyncha pick up Luther, Velo, & LG's tab? Thas how this works aint it?

Or do we just reach a point where the US says it can't pay it's tab, so it defaults on all debts to some pennies on the dollar?

Nooooo...we can't have a businessman look at all the wealth of America politicians have been committing outside our borders, recognize it has to stop, and take action on that. Nuh uhhhh.

So all these folk AROUND THE WORLD who no longer are getting all the sweet milk from the front tit of our gubbmint foreign aide don't like it? A foreign aide program paid for with money that DOES NOT EXIST, but CHARGED TO YOU AND ME. ... NOT THEM.

Yeah, we need to stop that.
 
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Senate at a critical point on healthcare, the White House is issuing threats against Syrian, and what is Trump obsessing over?

CNN

Why? Because his media image (and money) is all he really cares about.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Yes. Yes it is. It is a strange time when the people who complain the most, who want everyone else to give them something, somehow think other people are "not getting ahead"..

Thats the attitude that reinforces surveys that show liberals to be a miserable lot and conservatives to be much happier.
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I know a lot of liberals and I don't any that want everyone else to give them something. That may be one of the greatest misconceptions floating around.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Senate at a critical point on healthcare, the White House is issuing threats against Syrian, and what is Trump obsessing over?

CNN

Why? Because his media image (and money) is all he really cares about.
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Health care is too complicated, he said so himself.

And he has no idea where Syria even is. You could give him a map without country names and five guesses. Closest he would get is Venezuela.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Health care is too complicated, he said so himself.

And he has no idea where Syria even is. You could give him a map without country names and five guesses. Closest he would get is Venezuela.
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It always makes me chuckle when you and others try to insult his intelligence.
 
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