Coach Butch Jones Appreciation thread

[BeecherVol]

Haha. Maybe you need to spice up the breakfast menu!

Prolly so.

In fairness it came at 4 am so that was like yesterday.

 

[Behr]

Prolly so.

In fairness it came at 4 am so that was like yesterday.

One of "those things" my dad used to say to me that stuck. If I would say something like, "well, you said I could the other day" he would respond "I don't remember what I had for breakfast this morning, so I don't remember what I said about that, but I know what I say and I wouldn't have said that".

 

[BeecherVol]

One of "those things" my dad used to say to me that stuck. If I would say something like, "well, you said I could the other day" he would respond "I don't remember what I had for breakfast this morning, so I don't remember what I said about that, but I know what I say and I wouldn't have said that".

Yep.
My late granny would say that anytime I asked her a question.
Then she would recall something that happened 70 years ago.

 

[Behr]

Lol.

 

[Wylo]

The guy took on UT as a personal challenge and he is not going to stop until the job is done, and I believe all we need at this point is a season that breaks our way to get the job done. He has invested his career, his heart, and his family to be a part of something great. He is willing to put in the hours and the time others are not. He is a great roll model and father figure. He brings experience and pride and relentless enthusiasm. I would say he just needs a season to swing his way and Coach Jones will be talked about in college ball history. Trust me. You WANT to be a part of this right now. Negas need to go home to Alabama.

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

This is hilarious. He was headed to Colorado. Tennessee cut a bigger check. End of story. Stop with the sisters of mercy routine.

He seems to be a decent guy and isn't horrible. But let's stop acting like he's doing Tennessee any favors.

 

['Boro-vol]

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

This is hilarious. He was headed to Colorado. Tennessee cut a bigger check. End of story. Stop with the sisters of mercy routine.

Just stop it. He was very kind to take on the multi-million dollar paying, Volunteer charity case....out of the goodness of his mega-sized heart.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Hmm, you living breathing Sigmund Freuds act like people can only have one motivation in life.

What if, I know this is radical but bear with me, what if he both likes getting paid a lot, AND respects and buys into Tennessee and what our program stands for?

Wow, mind blown, huh?

Chocolate AND peanut butter, who'da thunk?

 

[IknoxvolsI]

Hmm, you living breathing Sigmund Freuds act like people can only have one motivation in life.

What if, I know this is radical but bear with me, what if he both likes getting paid a lot, AND respects and buys into Tennessee and what our program stands for?

Wow, mind blown, huh?

Chocolate AND peanut butter, who'da thunk?

Conspiracy theorist wanna know!🤔

 

['Boro-vol]

Hmm, you living breathing Sigmund Freuds act like people can only have one motivation in life.

What if, I know this is radical but bear with me, what if he both likes getting paid a lot, AND respects and buys into Tennessee and what our program stands for?

Wow, mind blown, huh?

Chocolate AND peanut butter, who'da thunk?

Obvious condescention aside, that may be the case now, but it's not unfair to say he came here for the coin....plain and simple. It was promotion, just like Colorado (where he was headed), only bigger. It was simply a case of ambition and capitalism meeting

 

[AboveAllNations]

I appreciate how Butch wears his faith on his sleeve. He is known to lead groups in prayer, and he sometimes wears a bible verse on his wrist. I'm proud to know my coach loves the Lord.

I haven't observed this from Jones, but this kind of overt religiosity really rubs me the wrong way when it comes from coaches at public universities like UT or Nebraska. What are non-Christian players supposed to think when the authority figures who determine their playing time lead "voluntary" prayers? Sorry, I prefer a strong separation of church and football.

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full." - Matthew 6:5

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Obvious condescention aside, that may be the case now, but it's not unfair to say he came here for the coin....plain and simple. It was promotion, just like Colorado (where he was headed), only bigger. It was simply a case of ambition and capitalism meeting

Didn't he turn down the Colorado gig, THEN get offered from Tennessee? I remember reading that, back in the day.

And it's still quite possible that he arrived with both motives already running. Read in another article somewhere that, when Cincinnati visited Neyland Stadium while Butch was their coach, he was intrigued by some of the traditions he saw. That caused him to look into Tennessee a little more, and so he was already kind of hooked when the offer came a year or two later.

Anyway, I do remember reading that somewhere. No idea if true, but certainly seems plausible.


p.s. Didn't mean to sound condescending, was just poking fun at you two for the psycho-evaluations of his motives.

 

['Boro-vol]

Didn't he turn down the Colorado gig, THEN get offered from Tennessee? I remember reading that, back in the day.

And it's still quite possible that he arrived with both motives already running. Read in another article somewhere that, when Cincinnati visited Neyland Stadium while Butch was their coach, he was intrigued by some of the traditions he saw. That caused him to look into Tennessee a little more, and so he was already kind of hooked when the offer came a year or two later.

Anyway, I do remember reading that somewhere. No idea if true, but certainly seems plausible.


p.s. Didn't mean to sound condescending, was just poking fun at you two for the psycho-evaluations of his motives.

It's certainly plausible if that is what you are predisposed to believe. Nothing anyone says is likely to change it.

He backed out of the Colorado deal....they had some heartburn over it if I remember correctly.

And yes, the condescention was intentional...which is fine. No harm, and no offense. We all do it. You can't refer to someone as a Sigmund Freud with innocent intentions however.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

It's certainly plausible if that is what you are predisposed to believe. Nothing anyone says is likely to change it.

He backed out of the Colorado deal....they had some heartburn over it if I remember correctly.

And yes, the condescention was intentional...which is fine. No harm, and no offense. We all do it. You can't refer to someone as a Sigmund Freud with innocent intentions however.

So if you read an article that he was a reformed card shark from lower Mississippi who remains on parole for bilking little old ladies out of their life savings, that would be plausible for you. Being predisposed to his focus on cold hard cash and all.

The condescension wasn't intentional. The joking was. The condescension was apparently just a freebie on the side.

 

[chargervol]

No one has.

I've seen the pattern very clearly this last week. The only way they have a point, it's to change what was said.
Kind of crappy for a fan but would make awesome politicians

 

['Boro-vol]

So if you read an article that he was a reformed card shark from lower Mississippi who remains on parole for bilking little old ladies out of their life savings, that would be plausible for you. Being predisposed to his focus on cold hard cash and all.

The condescension wasn't intentional. The joking was. The condescension was apparently just a freebie on the side.

I didn't read an article like that, and I don't think that. However I do believe him to be a professional, an athletic mercenary, who goes where the best opportunity and most money resides. He's like any other coach around the country with no alumni association to the school where they coach.

I appreciate the way you've approached our discussion. You've been fair, and not the least bit hostile. I meant nothing by the condescension remark, except that was what it was. We are all guilty of it, and I'm not offended in the least.

 

[IknoxvolsI]

Didn't he turn down the Colorado gig, THEN get offered from Tennessee? I remember reading that, back in the day.

And it's still quite possible that he arrived with both motives already running. Read in another article somewhere that, when Cincinnati visited Neyland Stadium while Butch was their coach, he was intrigued by some of the traditions he saw. That caused him to look into Tennessee a little more, and so he was already kind of hooked when the offer came a year or two later.

Anyway, I do remember reading that somewhere. No idea if true, but certainly seems plausible.


p.s. Didn't mean to sound condescending, was just poking fun at you two for the psycho-evaluations of his motives.

O factual backing to what you just said???

Oh no, we can't have this on VN! Where is the credibilty of such truths that was stated, oh factual one?

 

[VFL-82-JP]

O factual backing to what you just said???

Oh no, we can't have this on VN! Where is the credibilty of such truths that was stated, oh factual one?

Go away, gnat. Go bite on a dog's leg or something

 

[volfan102455]

Didn't he turn down the Colorado gig, THEN get offered from Tennessee? I remember reading that, back in the day.

And it's still quite possible that he arrived with both motives already running. Read in another article somewhere that, when Cincinnati visited Neyland Stadium while Butch was their coach, he was intrigued by some of the traditions he saw. That caused him to look into Tennessee a little more, and so he was already kind of hooked when the offer came a year or two later.

It depends upon what you believe about Colorado. He said he never accepted the job and had decided to stay at Cincinnati when the Tennessee offer came through.

And I do believe he admitted that he and his family were intrigued by Tennessee and the traditions. It happens to a lot of folks.

Not sure what the point is anyway.

Most expect a coach to envision Tennessee as a destination job. Not sure what the problem is with a coach that may have seen it that way.

 

['Boro-vol]

It depends upon what you believe about Colorado. He said he never accepted the job and had decided to stay at Cincinnati when the Tennessee offer came through.

And I do believe he admitted that he and his family were intrigued by Tennessee and the traditions. It happens to a lot of folks.

Not sure what the point is anyway.

Most expect a coach to envision Tennessee as a destination job. Not sure what the problem is with a coach that may have seen it that way.

I don't think him wanting the job is a problem at all. This issue is with some fans thinking he's doing this out of the goodness of his heart and a love for Tennessee, rather than bettering himself professionally.

 

[BeecherVol]

I don't think him wanting the job is a problem at all. This issue is with some fans thinking he's doing this out of the goodness of his heart and a love for Tennessee, rather than bettering himself professionally.

Exactly. Why would he not want it?

It's almost comical to here "Vol" fans run the job down so far that Jones had to swallow his pride to come here from Cincinatti. Not just a few years after he coached here against Dooley.

 

[BeecherVol]

It depends upon what you believe about Colorado. He said he never accepted the job and had decided to stay at Cincinnati when the Tennessee offer came through.

And I do believe he admitted that he and his family were intrigued by Tennessee and the traditions. It happens to a lot of folks.

Not sure what the point is anyway.

Most expect a coach to envision Tennessee as a destination job. Not sure what the problem is with a coach that may have seen it that way.

Destination job?

Did you not too long ago say he was the "only" coach that would take it?

Because that would make little to no sense If that was true.

 

[BeecherVol]

Hmm, you living breathing Sigmund Freuds act like people can only have one motivation in life.

What if, I know this is radical but bear with me, what if he both likes getting paid a lot, AND respects and buys into Tennessee and what our program stands for?

Wow, mind blown, huh?

Chocolate AND peanut butter, who'da thunk?

Fans, life, and football

 

[volfan102455]

Destination job?

Did you not too long ago say he was the "only" coach that would take it?

Because that would make little to no sense If that was true.

Read what I said ... "most expect a coach to view Tennessee as a destination job ". I did not say Jones did or didn't though interviews do indicate he did.

The coaches that said "no" obviously either

1) did not view Tennessee as a destination job

Or

2) did not believe they could get the job done before they got fired

Or

3) didn't want to put in the effort

Or

4) one of many other reasons

 

[BeecherVol]

Read what I said ... "most expect a coach to view Tennessee as a destination job ". I did not say Jones did or didn't though interviews do indicate he did.

The coaches that said "no" obviously either

1) did not view Tennessee as a destination job

Or

2) did not believe they could get the job done before they got fired

Or

3) didn't want to put in the effort

Or

4) one of many other reasons

Of course he did. He didn't step out of the HOF or Gods divine presence to take a job "No one else" would take.

Hell, Derek freaking Dooley took it just 3 years previous.

 

['Boro-vol]

Of course he did. He didn't step out of the HOF or Gods divine presence to take a job "No one else" would take.

Hell, Derek freaking Dooley took it just 3 years previous.

I'm guessing there were many other mid-major coaches that would have jumped at the office upgrade too....if that's what we were looking for.