The Radical Islamic Terrorism Catch-All Thread

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n_huffhines said:
I'll phrase it in a way that is less distracting...

Why are people here so threatened by the thought of white terrorism? Why do people go thru mental gymnastics to argue that cases like this are not terrorism?
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I can't answer for that, as I am neither threatened by the thought nor doing mental gymnastics.

I also called Timothy McV a terrorist immediately, etc.

Why would anyone be afraid of the idea that white people could be terrorists?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I can't answer for that, as I am neither threatened by the thought nor doing mental gymnastics.

I also called Timothy McV a terrorist immediately, etc.

Why would anyone be afraid of the idea that white people could be terrorists?
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So is this guy a terrorist?
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'll phrase it in a way that is less distracting...

Why are people here so threatened by the thought of white terrorism? Why do people go thru mental gymnastics to argue that cases like this are not terrorism?
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and by "less distracting" are you admitting to be g purposefully provocative by needlessly tying it back to Christians?
 
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lawgator1 said:
So the guy that did this is dimwitted? That seems to be the logical conclusion of your post, correct ?

Perhaps the response here should be for us in the "West" or Christians to universally condemn this. Lead by example.
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Here Huff, and LG. Please explain why "Christians" should be the ones who universally condemn this man? Why? Nothing I've seen on the news said he done this for Christians, so why throw Christians into it?? And again, here it is a white guy, and you can't quit making comments. Be a a muslim guy, and crickets from certain posters. Just saying.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I don't believe that you do approve, so I am not going to test your logic on a nonexistent position.

But I do suspect that there are some here that do support it, and I would love to hear how they justify terrorism and murder as a response to terrorism and murder, and what on Earth makes them think it would in any way deter future terrorism.
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I seriously can't think of one participant in the VN PF who approves of terrorism and murder as a response to terrorism and murder, or would think it would in any way deter future terrorism.

Not one. There are those who believe the best responses are to keep terrorists out of America; in the first place. Take the war they have declared on us, to them; in the second place. And WIN that war on radical Islamists who have declared war on the United States; as the end goal. No matter how long it takes.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He made the same leap of logic that so many here want to make, which is that the entire religion of a billion people is responsible for the terrorist acts of all members of that religion, even if one by one.
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I know I am one of the most vocal anti-radical Islamists on here. And I DO NOT and can't think of any others who say the ENTIRE muslim world is to blame. There is a huge majority who see violent jihad as reprehensible and do not accept the violent Quran, Surras, and Hadith teachings as the correct method of expanding islam in the modern world.

However, since there are so many muslims, it does not take but a small fraction to successfully plan, fund, and execute fairly complex terrorists attacks. Especially since 'lone wolf' jihadis screaming "allahu akbar" and driving a vehicle into a crowd seems to work as a method to hook up with a harem of virgins in paradise for the time being.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I don't know how to be any plainer. The question was:


How did you find it Christians' responsibility to condemn this? What was the link in your mind to lay it at the Christians' doorstep?
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In the broadest sense, it is their responsibility to do so because it's everybody's responsibility to do so.

In the narrower sense, since the West is largely some form or version of Christian, and those targeted were Muslim, there is a greater need to condemn it so as to deprive the wrongdoer of succeeding.

Just as you want Islam to condemn terror attacks on Christians or the West, I want us to condemn terror attacks on Islam and countries they are associated with.
 
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LouderVol said:
then why do you approve the random killing of civilians in the civilized world? (i know this is just a discussion from your side but I would still like to see it argued)
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Sorry, had to spank someone in the gun thread before I got to this. Business before pleasure and all that. Anyway...

The argument for support of the actions of the mosque attack. A Devil's Advocate Production by Grand Vol.

Why wouldn't I support an attack against a population that refuses to assimilate into my culture? We welcomed them with open arms, gave them shelter in their time of need then they turn around and allow some in their midst to attack us? Oh, I'm sure not all are bad, but enough of them are. I get tired of offering the olive branch and getting beat with it in return. So, a good offense is the best defense. Take the fight to them before they bring the fight to us.

Their own religion doesn't even care about each other and certainly don't care about coexisting with other religions. Why should I be any different? It's tribal in nature. My tribe was here already. Their tribe moved in and has started trying to change the way I live. They need to be told "enough" and that we are not going to permit it any longer. If you allowed 20 refugees to move onto your property and two of them became violent towards your children, would you still want the other 18 living there? Would you try to explain to your children that were victims of an attack it was "only" a couple of bad seeds and they should forgive and forget?

No, I'm tired of it and glad someone finally took the initiative to take the fight to them instead of waiting around to be a victim.
 
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grand vol said:
sorry, had to spank someone in the gun thread before i got to this. Business before pleasure and all that. Anyway...

The argument for support of the actions of the mosque attack. A devil's advocate production by grand vol.

Why wouldn't i support an attack against a population that refuses to assimilate into my culture? We welcomed them with open arms, gave them shelter in their time of need then they turn around and allow some in their midst to attack us? Oh, i'm sure not all are bad, but enough of them are. I get tired of offering the olive branch and getting beat with it in return. So, a good offense is the best defense. Take the fight to them before they bring the fight to us.

Their own religion doesn't even care about each other and certainly don't care about coexisting with other religions. Why should i be any different? It's tribal in nature. My tribe was here already. Their tribe moved in and has started trying to change the way i live. They need to be told "enough" and that we are not going to permit it any longer. If you allowed 20 refugees to move onto your property and two of them became violent towards your children, would you still want the other 18 living there? Would you try to explain to your children that were victims of an attack it was "only" a couple of bad seeds and they should forgive and forget?

No, i'm tired of it and glad someone finally took the initiative to take the fight to them instead of waiting around to be a victim.
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