According to Phil Steele, no Power 5 school returns as many OL starts as Tennessee

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BeardedVol said:
Phil's 2017 SEC position group rankings

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12 at QB? Wow. I must be out of touch. UF with the #1 receiving corp?
 
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UT-Rex said:
It's tough to block for a qb who wants to run all the time. Should be easier to block for Dormady.
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I have a feeling that Dormady if he gets the start will have a much quicker release than Dobbs. Dobbs overanalyzed at times and there just isn't enough time for that.

Of course Dormady won't have the running ability of Dobbs but he can run slightly better than most QBs.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Go ahead and click here,, and your tears will be instantly wiped away. Won't even hurt my feelings or cost me a wink of sleep either champ.:good!:
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I often wonder if all you condescending negas would run your mouths like this if all these conversations were held in person. I strongly believe not.
 
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I heard Finebum interview someone I think about two weeks ago and they were ranking O-lines and they had us tied 5th with S.C. I think, I should have expected that though. Had Kentucky third.
 
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I_Bleed_Orange77 said:
I often wonder if all you condescending negas would run your mouths like this if all these conversations were held in person. I strongly believe not.
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There have been people here in the past who made violent threats towads those they disagreed with and if that's what you're angling at then you should come out and state it and take whatever punishment the mods impose. If you are talking about civil in person discussions, my opinions are the same and I'd tell someone the same thing in person as I post here if the subject arises.
 
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I_Bleed_Orange77 said:
I often wonder if all you condescending negas would run your mouths like this if all these conversations were held in person. I strongly believe not.
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Because in real life running into a room and launching into a diatribe telling the occupants of the room that they have no business discussing their chosen topic would go over real well. You'd get off easy if they just told you to ignore their discussion and be about your day.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Having talented offensive lineman hasn't been the issue. Having coaching that is capable creating a quality offensive line frome those lineman, has been.
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Based on performance to date, I'd have to say the talent argument is certainly debatable. Now that we have new coaching across the board, I guess we will have an answer this fall. As the saying goes...this game is won or lost at the LOS. There are rather large question marks surrounding both OL,DL at UT for the coming season.
 
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UT-Rex said:
It's tough to block for a qb who wants to run all the time. Should be easier to block for Dormady.
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So...let me see here.

Dobbs has to run because his OL couldn't block.

But his OL couldn't block because Dobbs wanted to run.


Makes sense.
 
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I_Bleed_Orange77 said:
I often wonder if all you condescending negas would run your mouths like this if all these conversations were held in person. I strongly believe not.
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I'm sure they act the same in person as they do typing on a keyboard. Why wouldn't they? It's a free country. Nobody would have to stand there and have a conversation if they didn't want to.
 
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Maybe I just really want Florida to suck per both my last post and this one. But I don't get their DL rating either. They have 2 DL on their roster that are over 275. They'll be smaller inside, especially as a game goes on.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Based on performance to date, I'd have to say the talent argument is certainly debatable. Now that we have new coaching across the board, I guess we will have an answer this fall. As the saying goes...this game is won or lost at the LOS. There are rather large question marks surrounding both OL,DL at UT for the coming season.
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I can see where you are coming from, but I think the caveat is Mahoney. Given the regression of the OL during his time here, even if we replaced our predominantly 3-star line with 4-5 star guys, Mahoney still would have struggled to teach the blocking schemes and having them working in concert.

My doubts with 2017 are more with Wells as I find it hard to believe that he is a P5-level line coach. Just unlikely that he's been flying under the radar this long if he really is capable of taking Mahoney's mess and turning it into our strongest unit. Hopefully I'm wrong.
 
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BeardedVol said:
I can see where you are coming from, but I think the caveat is Mahoney. Given the regression of the OL during his time here, even if we replaced our predominantly 3-star line with 4-5 star guys, Mahoney still would have struggled to teach the blocking schemes and having them working in concert.

My doubts with 2017 are more with Wells as I find it hard to believe that he is a P5-level line coach. Just unlikely that he's been flying under the radar this long if he really is capable of taking Mahoney's mess and turning it into our strongest unit. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Ya I'm hoping that with his job on the line, Butch didn't gamble with Wells. It wouldn't be logical, but then again neither was Dave Clawson.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/t...er-5-school-returns-many-ol-starts-tennessee/

Despite the progression of the Volunteer program under head coach Butch Jones, Tennessee is facing a good deal of skepticism this offseason thanks to what many perceive as a lack of returning experience on offense. Anyone saying that clearly isn’t taking into account the returning offensive linemen on Rocky Top.
According to college football expert Phil Steele, no Power 5 team returns more starts on the offensive line heading into the 2017 season than Tennessee with 111 returning starts. Right behind the Vols at No. 3 in the nation and No. 2 among all Power 5 teams is Auburn with 106.


Having a talented and experienced O-Line helps a inexperienced QB cut his teeth. We should have one of the best units in the SEC in 2017 and beyond. Tons of talent in this unit.
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Having starters return is not the question for a lines success. How good have they been before now and will they improve over the offseason. If a line has been marginally good can it become really good just because of an offseason. This is the question.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
Unfortunately, and they didn't mention it in the story, we also have the most QB sacks and hurries allowed by any returning O line as well :)
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I hate using injuries as an excuse, but when they get so numerous they had to burn a freshman's red shirt, that kind of eliminates the need to call in Scooby and the gang to solve that mystery.
 
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He has Georgia's OL and RBs correct. Not sure their QB & RB talent will overcome that bottom tier OL though, IMO those 1st and 2nd string cats will be lucky to make it through the season uninjured. A lot of quick throws as they won't be able to protect, draws, screens, and play action passes will be their thing. They have a great returning TE though.
 
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It's tough to block for a qb who wants to run all the time. Should be easier to block for Dormady.

HuntlandVolinColo said:
I have a feeling that Dormady if he gets the start will have a much quicker release than Dobbs. Dobbs overanalyzed at times and there just isn't enough time for that.

Of course Dormady won't have the running ability of Dobbs but he can run slightly better than most QBs.
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I think another poster also noticed the actual, but missing, blue font in my post.

Would never dis Mr. Dobbs.

Many OL stuggles under Butch Jones (since Norman).

In reality, what I'm referring to ( big-picture-wise ) is actually something that Nick Saban recently was discussing even about Hurts' end-of-season play in 2016. I.e. Stay-in-the-pocket (predominantly) and utilize the receivers.

Someone's pointed out that we had multiple returning OL in 2014.

So -- for those pinning their hopes on the legs of a young Guarantano to take us to championships, Saban is steering towards the pocket (because of everything they did correct, he's focusing on the one thing, he thinks, broke down towards the end), and I'm believing we'll finally arrive this year to protect ours and go forward thru the air (I hope).
 
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Iam4utalways said:
I'm sure they act the same in person as they do typing on a keyboard. Why wouldn't they? It's a free country. Nobody would have to stand there and have a conversation if they didn't want to.
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You are correct, my friend. It is still somewhat of a "free" country. That's why some posters might get mitch-slapped if said face to face. Spittin' their teeth out like chiclets.... You know the type.
 
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