Are Dobbs' Mechanical Issues Fixable? - Article

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Let me go on record to say that I'm on board with the idea to have one is better than not having one.

Is there a more important position than QB?

Not that one position is really more important, if only 1 out of 11 goofs up, the end result of the play could be the opposite of the plan.

What bugs me is when we run our go to 3rd and 3 play when it's 3rd and 9. At least run the 3rd and 9 play. Show some sense of urgency when we have the ball.

For defense prepare for their offense thru film study and go with 1st best guess read. See what happens, our defense needs to be good enough so we don't have to rely on Stunts or blitzes. The old read and react.

When I watch football I'm always trying to guess the next play. I did guess we would run the Hail Mary against Ga. I was right, I've notice I'm right about 58% of time.

121 needs to answer the bell for Vol football.
 
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I noticed in the article when talking about his feet being set too close, that he said they noticed during his pro day he had worked hard to correct that issue.

The reason I point that out is because that is something that had he had a good/true QB coach while here at Tennessee he would have had corrected by his senior year.
 
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114VOL said:
No, it's not a fact. You said it like very few first rounders work hard. Sure there's a couple every year not willing to do the work. I was responding to your opinion that sounded absolute in nature.

BTW, I spent 6+ years working for an NFL franchise. Have been to more games in person that I can remember and watched even more on TV. So I've "watched" my share
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Great, doesn't change the fact that just because your drafted in the first round means you will be successful nor that if your drafted in the 4th round that you will suck.
 
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volfan102455 said:
The real question is how much better could he have been had he had a good offense line and did not have to run for his life all the time. Not saying the OL did not get better over time - but there were times he made the play running because he had to run.
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I agree with this. I also disagree with this notion that Dobbs would have been so much better if he had a qb coach. As a passer, he was light years better as a senior than he was as a freshman. Lets give our coaches the credit they deserve for developing him as good as they have. He was a 3 star with 1 other SEC offer iirc.
 
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interestig article. Wish we had fixed that last year! Either way, hope Dobbs has a great career in the NFL
 
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dlravol2 said:
Maybe this has been discussed, but why on earth would you not have a QB coach?
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Who cares...qb has not been our issue, OL and Defense has lost most games over the past several years!

Does anyone really think if we would have had a qb coach that Dobbs would've been picked much higher or we would have won more...I seriously doubt it
 
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goooooovols said:
Who cares...qb has not been our issue, OL and Defense has lost most games over the past several years!

Does anyone really think if we would have had a qb coach that Dobbs would've been picked much higher or we would have won more...I seriously doubt it
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In a game a inches, ever inch counts.

It could have made a difference.
 
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Very fixable and should have been addressed before.

With the current shortage of decent QBs in the NFL, I see Dobbs playing on Sunday's for a while and if he corrects a few things he could be one of the better dozen starters in NFL.

I don't see Big Ben going more than 2 years. Next significant injury and he will be done. He almost retired this offseason.
 
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Dobbs' issues aren't mechanical, they are between the ears. Check downs under pressure aren't mechanics. His throwing accuracy can be fixed, the stare downs can't easily.
 
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bamawriter said:
I'm asking because I clearly have no idea:

Did DeBord run the QB meeting room?
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Didn't seem like you were asking, more like you were declaratively telling.

Debord coordinated the offense but spent the majority, if not all of his time during practices with the offensive line. Heard this from former players Erik Ainge and Jayson Swain, former coach Doug Mathews, and every member of the media who covered the team. He surely was in the qb room as the offensive coordinator, but coaching QBs was not his forte. Last time he had served as a qb coach was supposedly in 1985-86 at Fort Hayes State.

Any coaching of the QBs came from former grad assistant Nick Sheridan, who Guarantano's parents raved about and advocated for. But he was only a part time GA, which is why you see all the questions about why we never hired a full time qb coach and why/how that may have affected Dobbs negatively.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Dobbs' issues aren't mechanical, they are between the ears. Check downs under pressure aren't mechanics. His throwing accuracy can be fixed, the stare downs can't easily.
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And yet, he led the conference in passing efficiency. Including leading in conference games.
 
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KBVol said:
Didn't seem like you were asking, more like you were declaratively telling.
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All I stated, declaratively or no, was that DeBord was UT's QB coach. This is a fact. I know this because I am capable of reading the English language. If you believe that I am incorrect in stating this fact, take that up with UT's SID for printing it on all programs, media guides, and UT's athletics website.

Debord coordinated the offense but spent the majority, if not all of his time during practices with the offensive line. Heard this from former players Erik Ainge and Jayson Swain, former coach Doug Mathews, and every member of the media who covered the team. He surely was in the qb room as the offensive coordinator, but coaching QBs was not his forte. Last time he had served as a qb coach was supposedly in 1985-86 at Fort Hayes State.
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So, did he run the QB meeting room or was he simply present?

Any coaching of the QBs came from former grad assistant Nick Sheridan, who Guarantano's parents raved about and advocated for. But he was only a part time GA, which is why you see all the questions about why we never hired a full time qb coach and why/how that may have affected Dobbs negatively.
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So you're saying that the QB meeting room was run by a GA for two years? Follow up question: why is Butch Jones still employed?
 
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bamawriter said:
All I stated, declaratively or no, was that DeBord was UT's QB coach. This is a fact. I know this because I am capable of reading the English language. If you believe that I am incorrect in stating this fact, take that up with UT's SID for printing it on all programs, media guides, and UT's athletics website.



So, did he run the QB meeting room or was he simply present?



So you're saying that the QB meeting room was run by a GA for two years? Follow up question: why is Butch Jones still employed?
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If you can be a writer then Butch can certainly be a coach.
 
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papatomany said:
And yet, he led the conference in passing efficiency. Including leading in conference games.
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I don't disagree, I am simply stating my opinion. He stared down the primary and if that wasn't open he would either hold long enough to get sacked or take off. He won't have the take off option as much in the NFL. He will have to stay in the pocket and go through the checkdowns. He hasn't seemed to be able to do that yet. If he wants to follow in Big Ben's footsteps, he will have to learn how to throw to someone other than the primary or run.
 
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bamawriter said:
All I stated, declaratively or no, was that DeBord was UT's QB coach. This is a fact. I know this because I am capable of reading the English language. If you believe that I am incorrect in stating this fact, take that up with UT's SID for printing it on all programs, media guides, and UT's athletics website.



So, did he run the QB meeting room or was he simply present?



So you're saying that the QB meeting room was run by a GA for two years? Follow up question: why is Butch Jones still employed?
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Bama, I'm not sure that the $$ were turned loose until recently for him to hire as he wanted to. I have to believe this because to believe anything else is to believe in the tooth fairy and the easter moose.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Bama, I'm not sure that the $$ were turned loose until recently for him to hire as he wanted to. I have to believe this because to believe anything else is to believe in the tooth fairy and the easter moose.
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But the implication is that UT had 2 full-time OL coaches (and with the results... yikes) and no QB coach. No matter the money available, that is a baffling misuse of resources.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
I agree with this. I also disagree with this notion that Dobbs would have been so much better if he had a qb coach. As a passer, he was light years better as a senior than he was as a freshman. Lets give our coaches the credit they deserve for developing him as good as they have. He was a 3 star with 1 other SEC offer iirc.
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Dobbs was rated a 4* on most recruiting sites.
 
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bamawriter said:
So you're saying that the QB meeting room was run by a GA for two years? Follow up question: why is Butch Jones still employed?
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That "GA" had previous experience in college coaching QBs. Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure he's spent more time coaching QBs than the guy Alabama just brought in.
 
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GAVol said:
That "GA" had previous experience in college coaching QBs. Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure he's spent more time coaching QBs than the guy Alabama just brought in.
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Their resumes both show two years specifically as QB coaches. But the bigger question is how you can expect a part-timer to effectively coach the most important position on the field, even if he's got decades of experience.
 
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goooooovols said:
Lol, Could've but not likely....
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Seems more likely that with an athlete like JD a little could go a long way.

Maybe with a QB coach going over the finer details of mechanics and film study JD would have been worse.

We may have dodged a bullet by not having a QB coach.
 
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bamawriter said:
Their resumes both show two years specifically as QB coaches. But the bigger question is how you can expect a part-timer to effectively coach the most important position on the field, even if he's got decades of experience.
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What's part time about being a GA?

So, one guy coaches QBs exclusively as a GA. Your guy coached QBs 10 years ago and is also going to spend time game planning. Neither situation is ideal, but that's just the way it has to happen with the number of coaches being limited. I'd bet that you guys have either a GA or Quality Control guy helping out with QBs so the OC can focus on being the OC.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Bama, I'm not sure that the $$ were turned loose until recently for him to hire as he wanted to. I have to believe this because to believe anything else is to believe in the tooth fairy and the easter moose.
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Or the money for those $100,000 cars, right Bama? :yes:
 
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Trust me I want to see JD succeed as much as anyone but I just don't see the accuracy for him to be in the NFL for long. Hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it. He made a living in Knoxville with his legs and you just can't do that as a pro. Tell me why I'm wrong.
 
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