Georgia Tech with a message to Tennessee....

#151
#151
GATechFan said:
CPJ also had a great time celebrating the Orange Bowl victory, but hey... Beating Kentucky is a HUGE accomplishment for a team that went 3-0 against your joke of a division. Kinda funny that Tennessee hasnt had a player drafted since 2014, but man has Butch built something special their OR WHAT?? Brick by Brick loss by loss. Go voLs.
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Your grammar is about as good as your football program, both suck! Vols by 21, book it!
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#152
#152
GAVol said:
Cut blocking probably needs to be modified further to protect defenders. They've gotten rid of the crackbacks and outside in stuff, but it's still dangerous. Not much difference between getting chopped and getting cut if they don't see it coming.
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I disagree that it's just the same as chop blocks. Chop blocks have a guy high and low, a lot more bad can come from that. And cuts really aren't that dangerous, look it up you won't find many if any players injured by GT from cut blocks. Many fans complain about it but don't know much about it at all and don't even know their own team does it. They think there are a lot of injuries but it's just not factual, and they don't do research to Know the truth. I do agree modifications could be made, but the only one I can think about is no cuts from coming around a player, they would have to be face up or barely on the side. If fans want it illegal and complain about GT doing it they need to do it about their own team as well. These pictures come up with a simple google search.

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Techfan1 said:
I disagree that it's just the same as chop blocks. Chop blocks have a guy high and low, a lot more bad can come from that. And cuts really aren't that dangerous, look it up you won't find many if any players injured by GT from cut blocks. Many fans complain about it but don't know much about it at all and don't even know their own team does it. They think there are a lot of injuries but it's just not factual, and they don't do research to Know the truth. I do agree modifications could be made, but the only one I can think about is no cuts from coming around a player, they would have to be face up or barely on the side. If fans want it illegal and complain about GT doing it they need to do it about their own team as well.
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I don't think anybody has a problem with cutting a guy on a downfield block or on the edge. Where people get upset is all the interior cuts where a guy has his eyes in the backfield and he gets hit from the side.
 
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GATechFan said:
CPJ also had a great time celebrating the Orange Bowl victory, but hey... Beating Kentucky is a HUGE accomplishment for a team that went 3-0 against your joke of a division. Kinda funny that Tennessee hasnt had a player drafted since 2014, but man has Butch built something special their OR WHAT?? Brick by Brick loss by loss. Go voLs.
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Glad that you made the point for us. UT hasn't had a player drafted since Butch's second year. Two seasons later, and his recruits are about to color the draft orange.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't think anybody has a problem with cutting a guy on a downfield block or on the edge. Where people get upset is all the interior cuts where a guy has his eyes in the backfield and he gets hit from the side.
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You are also talking about an OL or RB out in space cutting a DB, who has the athlecism to attempt to avoid it. On the line, the DL doesn't have a chance. Not going to argue it because it's legal. But yes, an option team does it a hundred times more than the other schools.
 
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VolGee4 said:
What's Butch's history with time to prepare? So what he beat Appy State in OT. It's also a different team.
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A different team that is missing the majority of the offensive and defensive production from the previous season.

Time to prepare seemed pretty irrelevant in 2016. Months on end to prepare for a sunbelt team, and we had to go to overtime and rely on a miracle fumble recovery to eke out a win.

Coming off a bye week to play USCe, came out flat and unprepared to lose to a Muschamp-coached team that struggled to beat UMass the week prior.

I hope that the coaching changes make a difference in 2017, but it's still CBJ at the top.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't think anybody has a problem with cutting a guy on a downfield block or on the edge. Where people get upset is all the interior cuts where a guy has his eyes in the backfield and he gets hit from the side.
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But you can cut a guy on the side, even down field, and the SS, FS, LB or CB not see it coming. At the LOS you see it coming it's normally face up and not at full speed like on the perimeter. My main point though, is it's not as dangerous as most think and imo it's more dangerous on the outside where a guy is running full speed, seems it would be easier to buckle a guys knees doing it that way. It's a lot harder to defend a cut block at full speed on the perimeter than it is inside with the OL pretty much stationary to start off.
 
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Techfan1 said:
But you can cut a guy on the side, even down field, and the SS, FS, LB or CB not see it coming. At the LOS you see it coming it's normally face up and not at full speed like on the perimeter. My main point though, is it's not as dangerous as most think and imo it's more dangerous on the outside where a guy is running full speed, seems it would be easier to buckle a guys knees doing it that way. It's a lot harder to defend a cut block at full speed on the perimeter than it is inside with the OL pretty much stationary to start off.
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That's where we disagree. I have time to react when I am in space. On the line, you may know it's coming, but you have nowhere to go. If you dodge the block, your ass won't be playing. DL also have more weight on top of those knees.
 
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BeardedVol said:
A different team that is missing the majority of the offensive and defensive production from the previous season.

Time to prepare seemed pretty irrelevant in 2016. Months on end to prepare for a sunbelt team, and we had to go to overtime and rely on a miracle fumble recovery to eke out a win.

Coming off a bye week to play USCe, came out flat and unprepared to lose to a Muschamp-coached team that struggled to beat UMass the week prior.

I hope that the coaching changes make a difference in 2017, but it's still CBJ at the top.
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Maybe the last offseason was spent preparing for Virginia Tech, Florida and Georgia.
 
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BeardedVol said:
A different team that is missing the majority of the offensive and defensive production from the previous season.

Time to prepare seemed pretty irrelevant in 2016. Months on end to prepare for a sunbelt team, and we had to go to overtime and rely on a miracle fumble recovery to eke out a win.

Coming off a bye week to play USCe, came out flat and unprepared to lose to a Muschamp-coached team that struggled to beat UMass the week prior.

I hope that the coaching changes make a difference in 2017, but it's still CBJ at the top.
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You must be fun to watch a game with. USC disappointment aside, he is pretty damn good with time to prepare, especially at least a month.
 
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VolGee4 said:
You are also talking about an OL or RB out in space cutting a DB, who has the athlecism to attempt to avoid it. On the line, the DL doesn't have a chance. Not going to argue it because it's legal. But yes, an option team does it a hundred times more than the other schools.
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Not true, a DL can avoid it with proper technique, it's actually easier to try and avoid rather than a guy running full speed at you. The main thing in avoiding a cut block is using your hands. Would you say it's easier to get your hands on a guy running full speed or diving at you from a stationary position? I would say stationary positions. On the perimeter, it's not like you can go around the cut block, if you do the RB will go right by you because he would be going off his blockers back, so you have to take the cut block straight on and use your hands.
 
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Freak said:
Maybe the last offseason was spent preparing for Virginia Tech, Florida and Georgia.
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If CBJ can only fully prep for 3 games a season, then I think maybe I'd have traded the prep time spent on the Battle at Bristol for preparing for one of the 4 conference teams that beat us.
 
#167
#167
VolGee4 said:
That's where we disagree. I have time to react when I am in space. On the line, you may know it's coming, but you have nowhere to go. If you dodge the block, your ass won't be playing. DL also have more weight on top of those knees.
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You have to take the cut block head on if you are on the perimeter, if you don't the RB will be running off the blockers hip and go right bye you, same thing on the LOS. A defender on the DL has to get his hands on the shoulders or back of the OL and push away or side step. Clemson killed us on the LOS doing that this past year.

But it's just my opinion, honestly my main argument is some complain and don't like it because they think it causes all these injuries but they are just miss informed because it really doesn't. I doubt you will be able to find many injuries caused by cut blocks by GT if any at all.
 
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BeardedVol said:
If CBJ can only fully prep for 3 games a season, then I think maybe I'd have traded the prep time spent on the Battle at Bristol for preparing for one of the 4 conference teams that beat us.
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He can only prep for three teams a season? Who said that? I didn't.

You mentioned months to prepare for a sunbelt team. I know you only focus on the losses. I simply proposed another theory.
 
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VolGee4 said:
You must be fun to watch a game with. USC disappointment aside, he is pretty damn good with time to prepare, especially at least a month.
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Has the orange wash of being a few months removed from the 2016 season dulled your memory? I don't think we ever put together 4 quarters in the same game where we looked prepared and well-coached; TN Tech maybe. Even in our wins we spent 2+ quarters of most all of the games looking unprepared and undisciplined.
 
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Freak said:
He can only prep for three teams a season? Who said that?

You mentioned months to prepare for a sunbelt team. I know you only focus on the losses. I simply proposed another theory.
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I always figured we worked on technique,the play book, and our own business during the off season. Then would turn our attention to specific game plans for each opponent the week of each game.

GT can work on their game plan for us all off season, we don't have the luxury to do that for them. They are not our toughest opponent, so we have to spend most of our time working on us and then focus on our opponents one at a time, one week at a time.
 
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#172
hammer81tn said:
I would trade that BoB game for 4 conference wins
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Who wouldn't?

I was simply pointing out other early games on our schedule (that we won), since I don't believe we spent months preparing for a sunbelt team, as some apparently do.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
I always figured we worked on technique,the play book, and our own business during the off season. Then would turn our attention to specific game plans for each opponent the week of each game.

GT can work on their game plan for us all off season, we don't have the luxury to do that for them. They are not our toughest opponent, so we have to spend most of our time working on us and then focus on our opponents one at a time, one week at a time.
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You mean we didn't prepare for Appy State for months? BeardedVol apparently disagrees.

You're right though, imo.
 
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KBVol said:
Georgia Tech head coach Paul Johnson....

“We’re 3-0 in the SEC East and have Tennessee next.” - @GTPaulJohnson


Awfully bold Coach Johnson. Thanks for the bulletin board material.
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i'm confused...why is this a bold statement? he didn't predict a result....
 
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Freak said:
You mean we didn't prepare for Appy State for months? BeardedVol apparently disagrees.

You're right though, imo.
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Because it's perfectly normal at UT to have literally, months of practice, a first string stocked with juniors and seniors, and then in the first game of the season, not be able to handle a Sunbelt team in 4 quarters of regulation play?
 
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