Tuesday Practice Updates 4.4.17

#51
#51
Strictly by numbers, we're deeper.

We started last year at 4 on scholarship, finished with 3 on scholarship, and were down to 2 when AK was out.

This year we'll have 5. That's more than than 4, 3, 2. Deeper.

If you dont have SEC talent, then you are not part of the depth.

When people discuss depth in the league, they are not discussing how many bodies are running around in practice.
 
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#52
#52
Strictly by numbers, we're deeper.

We started last year at 4 on scholarship, finished with 3 on scholarship, and were down to 2 when AK was out.

This year we'll have 5. That's more than than 4, 3, 2. Deeper.

Depth is guys that can contribute and be effective in their roles. Having more warm bodies doesn't mean you are deeper.

If Mississippi State has 6 scholarship RBs this year and Bama trots out 5 you wouldn't say Mississippi State is deeper than Bama at RB.
 
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#53
#53
John Kelly RB 5-9 212 JR
Carlin Fils-aime RB 5-11 175 SO
Stedman Love RB 5-8 175 RS FR
Taeler Dowdy RB 6-1 185 SO
Jayson Sparks RB 5-7 187 RS JR
Chip Omer RB 6-0 200 RS FR

There will be guys coming out of the woodwork this year. Guys you've never seen or heard of.

Has someone hacked his profile? I swear he used to make sense.

The depth chart will be Kelly, Chandler, CFA. That's it. End of story.
 
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#54
#54
Depth is guys that can contribute and be effective in their roles. Having more warm bodies doesn't mean you are deeper.

If Mississippi State has 6 scholarship RBs this year and Bama trots out 5 you wouldn't say Mississippi State is deeper than Bama at RB.

You have no idea what we have, and that's the point. You will hear new names this year. 6'1 185 sophomore from Murfreesboro sounds like he could make some noise to me.
 
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#55
#55
You have no idea what we have, and that's the point.You will hear new names this year. 6'1 185 sophomore from Murfreesboro sounds like he could make some noise to me.

You were the one who said we are deeper this year, or am I misremembering that?
 
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#60
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If you dont have SEC talent, then you are not part of the depth.

When people discuss depth in the league, they are not discussing how many bodies are running around in practice.

Depth is guys that can contribute and be effective in their roles. Having more warm bodies doesn't mean you are deeper.

If Mississippi State has 6 scholarship RBs this year and Bama trots out 5 you wouldn't say Mississippi State is deeper than Bama at RB.

You guys are confusing talent/readiness with depth. 3rd string isn't as talented/ready as 2nd string. 2nd string isn't as talented/ready as 1st. But those capable bodies are able to provide depth. To provide rest to the 1st/2nd string. To mop-up and learn in the process.
 
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#62
#62
You mean like Jumper?

I get the pessimists like Cat. That I get, but some of you...

You are looking at the roster and just picking a guy with a RB next to his name and touting him as depth. He doesn't even have a recruiting profile that I can find.

It's all good, not gonna be beneficial for this conversation to go any further anyways. Hope he turns into a Heisman contender.
 
#63
#63
Why make fun of a young man for being on the roster? There are other ways to prove a point

Nobody is making fun of him. I'm stating, in my opinion, he will not be a star here.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt he sees a meaningful snap.
 
#64
#64
John Kelly RB 5-9 212 JR
Carlin Fils-aime RB 5-11 175 SO
Stedman Love RB 5-8 175 RS FR
Taeler Dowdy RB 6-1 185 SO
Jayson Sparks RB 5-7 187 RS JR
Chip Omer RB 6-0 200 RS FR

There will be guys coming out of the woodwork this year. Guys you've never seen or heard of.

4 of the 6 you listed here will never play a meaningful snap at Tennessee. Chandler comes to town probably next month and I think he'll prove to be a stud. The other two, who knows? That's hardly the embarrassment of riches you seem to be describing. We can be good at the position if we stay healthy (CFA is already in a boot for an ankle/foot injury) and Chandler pans out. Lotta ifs right now outside of Kelly
 
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#66
#66
You guys are confusing talent/readiness with depth. 3rd string isn't as talented/ready as 2nd string. 2nd string isn't as talented/ready as 1st. But those capable bodies are able to provide depth. To provide rest to the 1st/2nd string. To mop-up and learn in the process.

If you are "mopping up" at best you may provide depth next year. If your good enough to find snaps in a meaningful game you are providing depth.

Maybe it's better served to call it meaningful depth.
 
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#68
#68
Has someone hacked his profile? I swear he used to make sense.

The depth chart will be Kelly, Chandler, CFA. That's it. End of story.

Exactly. We won't know how deep that position is until we see Chandler and more of CFA. We could be one deep for all intents and purposes. Then again, all 3 may prove SEC ready. Big question mark at RB. Not sure how anyone could know different at this point.
 
#69
#69
But to his original point...

I'm loving it....I think we have a better team then last year. I really do. Just depends on how the season plays out.

I see why there's reason for optimism. I think it's fair to say we should expect improvement from every position group with the exception of 3 which are coincidentally pretty important spots:

QB, RB, DL

Not to say we won't be better but need to know what we have here. DL is most critical here. Think about it...even if QB and RB combo could equal last years potency, dreary DL play will put us in an uphill battle. We saw at the end of last year that despite a high powered offensive unit, if your DL can't control the line you'll need to score 40+ to win. Can't put that much pressure on the young QB each game.

...which in the end makes a dominant Shy / KMAC combo key for success.
 
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#70
#70
I think the point is past 2 guys, no one does.
And that's giving credit to CFA which is based on a very limited sample.

We should have 4 RB's getting the majority of carries in 2017. Kelly will be our #1 RB with Chandler a close 2nd & receiving possibly 10+ carries/game. Carl Fils-Aime will be our 3rd RB with a few carries per game.

Coleman will be our 4th RB & probably will be relegated to mop up duty or injury problems. We should be ok at the RB position unless the injury bug hits that position.

If this was to happen then I guess one of those so called Preferred Walk-Ons will have to be ready to get some carries.

Probably Stedman Love would be the best out of the 4 we have on the roster. He's also a local kid so that might help a bit too. Hopefully it won't ever come down to that situation though.

I think 85%-90% of the carries will go to Kelly & Chandler though. Aimes has the ability to run the ball but he seems to not be able to stay healthy. He gets healthy & he gets a few spot carries per game as well.

Kelly is our main man at RB but it might not be too long into the season that we see Chandler take that spot away as the top RB. This guy is just amazing with the ball in his hands. Kelly will still bring the toughness to this position though. He's runs like a man possessed or angry at somebody.
 
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#71
#71
I would say we are thin at RB. Kelly has been in the system long enough to know his assignments and experience enough to make the play. If he goes down who do we have that you can count on to make the block on a critical 3rd down pass.
A good altheletic freshman RB can run the ball and catch a swing pass. Reading the blitz quickly and making the block takes experience. It took Kamara a year to get up to speed on this. His words, not mine.
If Kelly can stay healthy through the middle of the season it will give CFA and Chandler time to develop. If Kelly has a season ending injury early we are going to be limited in play calling for several games. More limited than we already are with a new QB.
On the up side I like both CFA and Chandler as future sec backs.
 
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#72
#72
This x 4. Hurd was the most overrated player in years
OK you guys are letting buthurt overrule reality.
Hurd is the best RB we have had in a long time as far as pure talent and translating to the NFL. Kamara and Kelly were both better fits for this particular offense but I would pause very long before saying either was "better" than him. Kamara could be but never had to carry the load. Kelly has not has the time to build a resume. Not saying at the end he might turn out better but that's a crazy thing to say right now.

Jalen Hurd was a kid who took some advice most people would call bad. That being said, we don't know what he was facing and why he came to make the choice he made. I think we need to just wish the kid the best and move on. Trust me it couldn't have been easy for him to make the choice he made and also it couldn't have been easy playing in an offense he was not a fit for for 3 years. I honestly believe if he played in most any other SEC offense those 3 years he would have been in the heisman convo.

it was a bad fit and he still made it work for almost 3 years.
 
#73
#73
Has someone hacked his profile? I swear he used to make sense.

The depth chart will be Kelly, Chandler, CFA. That's it. End of story.

The fact that the second team RB back on your list isn't even on campus yet tells me that UT has depth problems at RB.
 
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#74
#74
John Kelly RB 5-9 212 JR
Carlin Fils-aime RB 5-11 175 SO
Stedman Love RB 5-8 175 RS FR
Taeler Dowdy RB 6-1 185 SO
Jayson Sparks RB 5-7 187 RS JR
Chip Omer RB 6-0 200 RS FR

There will be guys coming out of the woodwork this year. Guys you've never seen or heard of.

Fils-aime looks like he weights 200lbs. in the spring videos.
 
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