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SSVol said:
It's not that we disagree about the trajectory, you honestly don't know what I believe about that, because if I did think we'd peaked, I still wouldn't say it. It's that y'all constantly harp on how bad things are...and it's really not that bad. Back to back 9 win seasons for the first time in a while. Beat UF like a drum. Saw some great games. Have an epic QB battle going on between three 4* QBs! When is the last time we had that much QB talent on the team at once? But rather than consider what might go right, you constantly...*constantly*...go on about how bad our coach is and how he squandered opportunity. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. I don't know. What I do know is that 9 wins including a beat down of UF and every Big10 team we've played, is much better than 5 wins including a loss to Wyoming.

I was at the NC game in 98. It was a pretty big deal. A good time. Did y'all get there for that one? I'd certainly love to do it again, but not enough to tear down our current coach who is doing a decent, if not elite, job of rebuilding the program that was destroyed by the clown show that ran ripshod through Knoxville. And I'm starting to resent those who would drag us back into the next clown show that might happen if our amazing leadership were to hire another coach. So if I'm a settler because I'd rather enjoy 9 or 10 win seasons year after year rather than risk the highly unlikely scenario where this leadership lucks into the next NC coach, then build me a sod covered cabin on the prairie and call me Ingalls.
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volfanngatorland said:
Yep. Then 2018 those top 5 classes Kirby is bringing in will be a little bit older so when we finish behind them it will be because Kirby cheated and has more talent than Butch and there's no way we can compete with them.

Any guesses on 2019?
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You clearly are not having any fun being a Vol fan, ever consider switching teams? How can you be a supposed fan and never, never have a positive spin on any topic?
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Shoop didn't all of a sudden get stupid. It was a combination of several things. Injury and staff disfunction. Up the middle that defense was wrecked by that game.
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Mostly staff dysfunction, IMO. Otherwise, why does the staff right now look so different than the one in town 6 months ago? And that goes back to the man at the top, ultimately.


I'm gonna stop beating the dead horse here, but those who act like those two losses on the backend can be chalked up merely to injuries are ignoring some major red flags.

The next season or two will ultimately show whether that staff dysfunction stemmed from Butch or whether it the guys he surrounded himself with ( and made Shoop work with). Either way, it's not the best look unless his new staff performs at a high level relatively quickly.
 
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SSVol said:
It's not that we disagree about the trajectory, you honestly don't know what I believe about that, because if I did think we'd peaked, I still wouldn't say it. It's that y'all constantly harp on how bad things are...and it's really not that bad. Back to back 9 win seasons for the first time in a while. Beat UF like a drum. Saw some great games. Have an epic QB battle going on between three 4* QBs! When is the last time we had that much QB talent on the team at once? But rather than consider what might go right, you constantly...*constantly*...go on about how bad our coach is and how he squandered opportunity. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. I don't know. What I do know is that 9 wins including a beat down of UF and every Big10 team we've played, is much better than 5 wins including a loss to Wyoming.

I was at the NC game in 98. It was a pretty big deal. A good time. Did y'all get there for that one? I'd certainly love to do it again, but not enough to tear down our current coach who is doing a decent, if not elite, job of rebuilding the program that was destroyed by the clown show that ran ripshod through Knoxville. And I'm starting to resent those who would drag us back into the next clown show that might happen if our amazing leadership were to hire another coach. So if I'm a settler because I'd rather enjoy 9 or 10 win seasons year after year rather than risk the highly unlikely scenario where this leadership lucks into the next NC coach, then build me a sod covered cabin on the prairie and call me Ingalls.
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I respect that outlook, but I can absolutely deal with alternating lows if the highs mean contending- and especially winning championships.

I guess that's the fundamental difference.
 
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Volnukem said:
My problem with realists is that I have enough in my life I have to be realistic about. Tennessee sports is hobby for me. It's a getaway for me. Some of the realists are dragging me down. While you are being real, I'm gonna enjoy myself and be optimistic about next year. The day I lose that optimism is the day I quit investing my time into the team. It sucks enough to endure losses during the season. I'm not going to drag myself down during the offseason with doom and gloom.
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Well stated! For the life of me I can not see how some can profess to be a fan of a team and then constantly rail on it's perceived shortcomings..
 
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barrylee said:
You clearly are not having any fun being a Vol fan, ever consider switching teams? How can you be a supposed fan and never, never have a positive spin on any topic?
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Jesus people. I've said like 3 negative things on here in 5 years lol some of y'all need to get a grip when people have differing opinions. It's a message board, we aren't gonna agree on everything.

"Never, never have a positive spin on anything"
 
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volfanngatorland said:
Jesus people. I've said like 3 negative things on here in 5 years lol some of y'all need to get a grip when people have differing opinions. It's a message board, we aren't gonna agree on everything.

"Never, never have a positive spin on anything"
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I disagree.
 
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Volnukem said:
My problem with realists is that I have enough in my life I have to be realistic about. Tennessee sports is hobby for me. It's a getaway for me. Some of the realists are dragging me down. While you are being real, I'm gonna enjoy myself and be optimistic about next year. The day I lose that optimism is the day I quit investing my time into the team. It sucks enough to endure losses during the season. I'm not going to drag myself down during the offseason with doom and gloom.
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AMEN!!! This is what I have been trying to get across to the "realists". If you are so invested that you can't find some hope or optimism for the next year then maybe you need to step back and take a break. That is the great thing about sports.... there is always next year. Heck, Cubs fans waited lifetimes for their team to win a championship and some lived and died without ever seeing it happen. Be happy that most of us have lived to see the Vols win a championship. Also, be happy that we have lived through one of the worst stretches in Vol Football history and have come out the other side where there is the ability to be optimistic. It's ok to have an opinion that might not be all sunshine and lollipops but the refusal to acknowledge that we have hope for next year is exhausting! :good!:
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Accurate description of this thread at the moment:

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Yes. I've blown my share of raspberries too I suppose. It's just I feel compelled to call the negative Nancies out on their incessant griping. Of course this causes me to gripe incessantly about their incessant griping. Then they get upset with me for griping about their griping and gripe about that too. It's a vicious cycle.
 
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Volnukem said:
My problem with realists is that I have enough in my life I have to be realistic about. Tennessee sports is hobby for me. It's a getaway for me. Some of the realists are dragging me down. While you are being real, I'm gonna enjoy myself and be optimistic about next year. The day I lose that optimism is the day I quit investing my time into the team. It sucks enough to endure losses during the season. I'm not going to drag myself down during the offseason with doom and gloom.
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This makes too much sense.
 
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