Doug Matthews Roasting the AD hiring process

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BeecherVol said:
At the end of the day all that matters is that they got the best guy they could get. I think there are plenty questions regarding success on that end at this point. The managing of the situation was a debacle from the beginning. And they deserve what ever level of scrutiny they get for that part. This come down to what 1 man wanted.

Currie has his work cut out for him.
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Actually he is on easy street..i'm sure hiis. Employment agreement calls for a one year salary or more based on the separation agreement in the event of termination. Probably also gets a pension after being invested with the system for appeared of time I'm sure the years prior to leaving UT the first time counts towards his years of service so all good for him
 
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ajvol01 said:
Still a terrible analogy.

They've had 9 months to make a good hire and failed miserably.
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They had 9 months, and made an awesome hire, they were not in a hurry, they needed to wait on the Chancellor hire first. Blackburn might have worked out to be a good hire but CPF would have set us back much like he did as the head football coach
 
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Biopsyman said:
Actually he is on easy street..i'm sure hiis. Employment agreement calls for a one year salary or more based on the separation agreement in the event of termination. Probably also gets a pension after being invested with the system for appeared of time I'm sure the years prior to leaving UT the first time counts towards his years of service so all good for him
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In that regard, yes.
 
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butchna said:
Seasoned professional AD with Tennessee roots...was prepared for Bohn.
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he knows how to raise money, that's for sure. made KSU one of hte most profitable athletic departments in the country.

which we all know is what's important.:p
 
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he was very upset. Swain went on in a rant too. This is UT and they've shown a track record for doing these kinds of things. Fulmer was not qualified, but it could just be karma for how he became the HC years ago by back dooring Johnny Majors. The person I feel got screwed was Blackburn. They've put out he's an alcoholic, not the best health,but all that aside he's done a damn good job for UTC on every facet of being an AD. Either way Currie is here lets embrace it.
 
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Otis07 said:
They had 9 months, and made an awesome hire, they were not in a hurry, they needed to wait on the Chancellor hire first. Blackburn might have worked out to be a good hire but CPF would have set us back much like he did as the head football coach
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Awesome, huh?

Why was K-state so glad to see him leave?
 
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ajvol01 said:
Working for Hamilton and getting rid of Fulmer = Tennessee roots?
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Think he worked for THE UNIVERSITY and Hamilton was his boss. He has a degree from Tennessee and spent 11 years working for the university. Fulmer helped get rid of Majors...Tennessee roots?
 
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butchna said:
We don't KNOW they are.
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You certainly don't KNOW they aren't.

Bill Snyder delayed his retirement and continued to coach through throat cancer so John Currie would not be involved in selecting Snyder's successor.

Frank Martin left because of Currie.

But some will remember Currie more for his rift with former men’s basketball coach Frank Martin. He left K-State for South Carolina in 2012 after an impressive five-year run with the Wildcats, which included four trips to the NCAA Tournament and one run to the Elite Eight, for many reasons, the most publicized of which was his poor working relationship with Currie.

Currie replaced Martin with current coach Bruce Weber, who got off to a strong start but has faded since. It appeared Currie would soon have to make a decision on whether to bring back Weber, who has missed the last two postseasons, for a sixth year, but that choice will seemingly fall on Veatch.

A new athletic director will also help guide the transition to a new football coach, whenever 77-year-old Bill Snyder decides to retire.
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Read more here: Athletic director John Currie leaving Kansas State for same job at Tennessee | The Kansas City Star
 
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butchna said:
Think he worked for THE UNIVERSITY and Hamilton was his boss. He has a degree from Tennessee and spent 11 years working for the university. Fulmer helped get rid of Majors...Tennessee roots?
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You serious Clark?

Fulmer is a Winchester, TN native, former player and captain, long-time assistant coach and coordinator as well as the 2nd most successful head coach in Volunteer football history.

You're comparing that to working in the UTAD for 11 years and getting a masters?

You can't make this stuff up.
 
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ajvol01 said:
You certainly don't KNOW they aren't.

Bill Snyder delayed his retirement and continued to coach through throat cancer so John Currie would not be involved in selecting Snyder's successor.

Frank Martin left because of Currie.



Read more here: Athletic director John Currie leaving Kansas State for same job at Tennessee | The Kansas City Star
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Like how you characterize opinions as facts. This article is a byproduct of a writer's opinion. Snyder's cancer was recently diagnosed iirc...so more TMZ level gossip. :lol:
 
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ajvol01 said:
You serious Clark?

Fulmer is a Winchester, TN native, former player and captain, long-time assistant coach and coordinator as well as the 2nd most successful head coach in Volunteer football history.

You're comparing that to working in the UTAD for 11 years and getting a masters?

You can't make this stuff up.
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Hodgepodge of haphazard allegations. You implied Currie had no Tennessee ties because he "worked for Hamilton" and "fired Fulmer". Well Fulmer worked for Majors and worked on getting him fired so he could take the job. Bully for him that he's from Winchester. Tee Higgins is from Oak Ridge...didn't make that up! :w00t: You seem to believe because the shunned candidate has "MORE" Tennessee goodness in him that means Currie has no Tennessee connection whatsoever. :loco: You piped in from nowhere to crap on that point and can't believe the clear explanation? Time for that nice ride to the middle of nowhere to leave you for dead, Eddie. :shades:
 
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butchna said:
Hodgepodge of haphazard allegations. You implied Currie had no Tennessee ties because he "worked for Hamilton" and "fired Fulmer". Well Fulmer worked for Majors and worked on getting him fired so he could take the job. Bully for him that he's from Winchester. Tee Higgins is from Oak Ridge...didn't make that up! :w00t: You seem to believe because the shunned candidate has "MORE" Tennessee goodness in him that means Currie has no Tennessee connection whatsoever. :loco: You piped in from nowhere to crap on that point and can't believe the clear explanation? Time for that nice ride to the middle of nowhere to leave you for dead, Eddie. :shades:
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Spin it however you like. I'm not crazy about the hire.

You obviously disagree. We'll see how this plays out over the next few years.

Hopefully we're not talking about how far back Currie set the football program as well as the rest of the athletic department.
 
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de1conley said:
he was very upset. Swain went on in a rant too. This is UT and they've shown a track record for doing these kinds of things. Fulmer was not qualified, but it could just be karma for how he became the HC years ago by back dooring Johnny Majors. The person I feel got screwed was Blackburn. They've put out he's an alcoholic, not the best health,but all that aside he's done a damn good job for UTC on every facet of being an AD. Either way Currie is here lets embrace it.
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Nah, won't embrace it, won't protest or riot either. Just gonna pull for the Vols like I always do and hope he does a good job while not screwing things up.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Spin it however you like. I'm not crazy about the hire.

You obviously disagree. We'll see how this plays out over the next few years.

Hopefully we're not talking about how far back Currie set the football program as well as the rest of the athletic department.
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Football programs really aren't that fragile. Penn State, USC and (in the future) Baylor take huge personnel losses and recover in practically no time. This guy pisses off a few people and it ain't going to affect the product on the field. You telling me other AD's would survive the TMZ treatment unscathed? Get to the top and you've bruised somebody to get there. We'll be just fine but don't stop fretting...it works for you. :thumbsup:
 
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butchna said:
Football programs really aren't that fragile. Penn State, USC and (in the future) Baylor take huge personnel losses and recover in practically no time. This guy pisses off a few people and it ain't going to affect the product on the field. You telling me other AD's would survive the TMZ treatment unscathed? Get to the top and you've bruised somebody to get there. We'll be just fine but don't stop fretting...it works for you. :thumbsup:
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Good point.

As far as "it ain't going to affect the product on the field", that's really my only concern. I can't see it affecting it now, but if and when it's time to replace Butch.

That said, it is what it is and I'm pretty much over it now. Hope I don't have to worry about it, for a while anyway.
 
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After reading through reasons why Blackburn or Fulmer weren't hired, it seems fair to say Butch Jones would not have been hired if Davenport would have been Chancellor. It seems funny that the head football coach at UT wouldn't be held to a higher standard than a new AD.
 
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de1conley said:
he was very upset. Swain went on in a rant too. This is UT and they've shown a track record for doing these kinds of things. Fulmer was not qualified, but it could just be karma for how he became the HC years ago by back dooring Johnny Majors. The person I feel got screwed was Blackburn. They've put out he's an alcoholic, not the best health,but all that aside he's done a damn good job for UTC on every facet of being an AD. Either way Currie is here lets embrace it.
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You are only an alcoholic is if you attend meetings
 
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Behr said:
Good point.

As far as "it ain't going to affect the product on the field", that's really my only concern. I can't see it affecting it now, but if and when it's time to replace Butch.

That said, it is what it is and I'm pretty much over it now. Hope I don't have to worry about it, for a while anyway.
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I think a certain Volnation lot are setting it up perfectly. IF Butch has to be replaced, his replacement has to suck because the AD does. :lol:
 
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