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#126
#126
volprof said:
With a willing congress, he can absolutely make an attempt at limiting the press. The SC may hold them up, but they can certainly make the attempt.

Luckily, as more comes to light - finally - with Kremlingate, more and more Republican congressmen and women will hop off the Trump train by the day. So, I will grant that the attempt to curtail the press will most likely never see the light of day as a result.
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He's not even going to make an attempt at curtailing the freedom of the press, an EO would be killed in the courts and congress isn't going to do a damn thing. The press is curtailing themselves with their over the top coverage and outright falsehoods.

And further nothing will come out of your Kremlingate conspiracy, this is worse that the birther movement Hillary started.
 
#127
#127
luthervol said:
This is what I fear. Dissent is not tolerated. Agree with the Trump (Bannon) grand plan, or there is no place for you. They are surrounding themselves with yes men.

White House confirms adviser reassigned after disagreeing with Trump - CNNPolitics.com
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That's what your left-wing idiot god Obama did.....dissent was not tolerated. Obama would send the feds to investigate you & the IRS after you to shut you down & make your life miserable as possible.....remember those sweet days under your left-wing idiot god Obama?
 
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#128
#128
W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Liberal lunacy abounds each day Trump is President.

Presidents Day Protests are going on today in America.....that's a shocker for sure.
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What are we coming to as a nation when a sitting president who colluded with the Russians to commit a domestic coup is being protested on President's Day!
 
#129
#129
GAVol said:
I think you're right and wrong. They feel shut out and ignored, but it's unfair to dismiss them as racists. We've just come out of 8 years of weak recovery and the most liberal administration/congressional leadership of my lifetime. Sure, maybe done of them are driven by xenophobia, but a lot of them are just sick and tired.
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With Obama, it wasn't so much race in the sense that Obama did not present as the stereotypical black male they hate or are afraid of. Rather, his being black was a proxy for the re-prioritization they feel left them behind. When something like Trayvon Martin or Ferguson occurred and Obama could say he felt empathy for the families and communities involved -- as opposed to just sympathy -- that caused a lot of recoil in the disaffected rural and agricultural communities you are referring to.

So I don't think it was blind hatred of him because he was black. I think he was emblematic of their sense that the government had shifted its focus away from them and towards these other communities that they resent in the never ending battle for resources.

The real irony is that these rural and agricultural, white, working man communities have become convinced by the business establishment that the problem is that the minority communities are siphoning off all the money through social spending, while at the same time convincing them, that the solution is to actually reduce what the business and investment class should be paying in taxes.

Its quite remarkable. What these populist white lower and middle class communities need to understand is that it is not the minority communities that are causing them financial pain. They have far more in common with each other than is convenient to understand.
 
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tumscalcium said:
You're conditioning yourself to think they're all great people even when facts say otherwise.

You go way, way out of your way to try and prove your tolerance. It's foolish.
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That's idiotic. I'm not the delusional one. I know that some are evil, I know there are problems, I know there are crimes being committed, I know that cultural assimilation is a huge issue. That was also true of Italian immigrants, Jewish immigrants, Polish immigrants, Mexican immigrants, Irish immigrants......

There was propaganda demonizing each of those groups as they immigrated. A little was based on truth, but most was just BS fear mongering...same thing is happening now.
 
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lawgator1 said:
With Obama, it wasn't so much race in the sense that Obama did not present as the stereotypical black male they hate or are afraid of. Rather, his being black was a proxy for the re-prioritization they feel left them behind. When something like Trayvon Martin or Ferguson occurred and Obama could say he felt empathy for the families and communities involved -- as opposed to just sympathy -- that caused a lot of recoil in the disaffected rural and agricultural communities you are referring to.

So I don't think it was blind hatred of him because he was black. I think he was emblematic of their sense that the government had shifted its focus away from them and towards these other communities that they resent in the never ending battle for resources.

The real irony is that these rural and agricultural, white, working man communities have become convinced by the business establishment that the problem is that the minority communities are siphoning off all the money through social spending, while at the same time convincing them, that the solution is to actually reduce what the business and investment class should be paying in taxes.

Its quite remarkable. What these populist white lower and middle class communities need to understand is that it is not the minority communities that are causing them financial pain. They have far more in common with each other than is convenient to understand.
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Everyone should read this post 3 times. And then read it again. And then think about what you read.
 
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#139
luthervol said:
That's idiotic. I'm not the delusional one. I know that some are evil, I know there are problems, I know there are crimes being committed, I know that cultural assimilation is a huge issue. That was also true of Italian immigrants, Jewish immigrants, Polish immigrants, Mexican immigrants, Irish immigrants......

There was propaganda demonizing each of those groups as they immigrated. A little was based on truth, but most was just BS fear mongering...same thing is happening now.
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Uh huh.

You seem to know there are issues, you just choose to ignore it. You want to force other people to deal with it.
 
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#144
Septic said:
That oped offers nothing new.

Hard to take a guy who advocates for unsolicited pu$$y grabbing as too bent out of shape by what happened in Sweden.
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As if you're comparing apples to apples..... yeah just the other day Trump was walking through the West Wing just a grabbin' snatches left and right.....come on man
 
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luthervol said:
That's idiotic. I'm not the delusional one. I know that some are evil, I know there are problems, I know there are crimes being committed, I know that cultural assimilation is a huge issue. That was also true of Italian immigrants, Jewish immigrants, Polish immigrants, Mexican immigrants, Irish immigrants......

There was propaganda demonizing each of those groups as they immigrated. A little was based on truth, but most was just BS fear mongering...same thing is happening now.
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The situations you describe are unfortunately not anywhere close to the same. ..... not even on the same realm of reality...
 
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#146
#146
volprof said:
By "fake news," do you mean the kind like the now (at least) partially substantiated Steele dossier that I was assured when it was leaked was merely a 4chan troll job?
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There's no amount of mental help that's available for you in this day & age. I was replying to your post which you said "a president who colluded with the Russians to commit a domestic coup". Read my lips ------> There's no solid concrete evidence that ever happened & you fell for "fake news" like all the left-wing loony libtards did....don't feel ashamed by it. Just admit you are delusional & are thinking all wrong about the Donald.
 
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n_huffhines said:
A gaffe? How is it a gaffe? What was he trying to say?

He didn't clarify anything so you don't know. You have to guess at what he's talking about. If it is true that he was basing it on a FN story, here is what I think happened:

He saw a fox story about problems in Sweden. He's old, he wasn't really paying attention, and his attention to detail isn't good in the first place nor does he care about actual facts (or anything other than his ego, really).

His old, half-working mind turns a fox news story about some things that have been happening into something that happened that day.

It's not a gaffe. It's a misunderstanding of the world around him. He really thought there was a big incident.
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"He really thought there was a big incident".!? Are you on (or maybe more likely based on your recent posts) .. off your drugs?

We had people over and someone tuned to the "Trump thing in Florida" right when Mrs. Trump finished.

And yeah, so someone asked "What happened in Sweden"?

But no one at our dinner saw what he said as much of anything because we all know. there is SO MUCH GOING ON IN SWEDEN. Constantly. With radical muslims attempting to install sharia, refugee craziness, unescorted youth refugee kidnappings, rape, attacks on police, attacks on neighborhoods, on and on. It was a gaffe.

For anyone to deny that and attempt to make more of it than that shows them to be intentionally intellectually dishonest and merely in libTARD attack dog mode,

... or off their meds.
... or just a fool.
 
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#149
#149
So Trump was referencing a Fox News segment that aired the night before he spoke (he never claimed a terrorist attack in spite of what you may be led to believe). Anyway I don't believe the video at question has been posted. Here you go:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqaIgeQXQgI[/youtube]
 
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