Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXII

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Bassmaster_Vol said:
That's the fear. You can't deny it either. Kamara was terribly underutilized.
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Tennessee coach: It's not bad having two to three good backs to share the load. Takes some of the wear and tear off your body and reducing risk of injury. You know backs have only so many hits they can take in a career.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Opposing coach: Alvin Kanara was a great back and he was totally underutilized at TN. Probably cost him millions. Would they do the same to you?
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I'm sure it was used against us with Etienne and Akers. He and John Kelly have got the 2017 to shut them up. Let's hope he doesn't continue to outsmart himself.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Tennessee coach: It's not bad having two to three good backs to share the load. Takes some of the wear and tear off your body and reducing risk of injury. You know backs have only so many hits they can take in a career.
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I'm sure they'll try to make the case for this, but having one of your most dynamic playmakers getting only a handful of touches a game looks a lot more like under-utilization.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Tennessee coach: It's not bad having two to three good backs to share the load. Takes some of the wear and tear off your body and reducing risk of injury. You know backs have only so many hits they can take in a career.
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Agree. That can be used as a plus. We didn't overwork him and now he will make millions more as he's getting paid for the hits

Or you can go get used up for free at bama?
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
And that was my point. He compressed his thoughts into a quote he thought he would make a good soundbyte. Herman was speaking off the cuff and it didn't make a good headline quote or tweet.


The 247 guys said Butch said the same thing on signing day, but the didn't report on it. Then he said it 2-3 times at the signing day celebrations (ironically followed up by a video hyping the top 100 players they got), so they kind of had to report it.


For better or worse, it seems like Butch wanted that quote in headlines. Likely because he knows that recruits and their families don't see things quite the same as fans and pundits
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I think it is definitely fine that they reported it. It's just when so many other of our so-called journalists take it and run with it on social media and get it out there for everyone else to also take completely out of context.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I guess it comes down to who is the better salesman.
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Recruiting is a nasty business, they could throw Debord under the bus if they chose. "Old school power back coach, just look at Kelly. Now coach Scott, he has a great mind for versatile backs".

It's recruiting. It doesn't have to be true but I guess it could be.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I guess it comes down to who is the better salesman.
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A 2016 F-150 is easier to sell than a 1990's Tempo regardless of the salesman. 10-2 would have made this a whole lot easier to sell. Letting Mushamp shut you down and costing you the East in the process makes it a lot tougher.

EDIT: Scar game may not have been a great example because Kamara was out.
 
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chargervol said:
Recruiting is a nasty business, they could throw Debord under the bus if they chose. "Old school power back coach, just look at Kelly. Now coach Scott, he has a great mind for versatile backs".

It's recruiting. It doesn't have to be true but I guess it could be.
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Problem with that approach is it comes across as excuse making. They can however point to the post Hurd part of the season. If I were a recruiting I would rather have honesty. I would want Butch to say we tried way too hard to make Jalen Hurd happy. We learned a valuable lesson that no player, regardless of his stars is more important than the team. That was my mistake and I won't let it happen again.
 
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MrVolton said:
A 2016 F-150 is easier to sell than a 1990's Tempo regardless of the salesman. 10-2 would have made this a whole lot easier to sell. Letting Mushamp shut you down and costing you the East in the process makes it a lot tougher.
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So you're saying Bama is giving the players 2016 F150s and we're offering up 90's Tempos? Explains a lot. :)
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Problem with that approach is it comes across as excuse making. They can however point to the post Hurd part of the season. If I were a recruiting I would rather have honesty. I would want Butch to say we tried way too hard to make Jalen Hurd happy. We learned a valuable lesson that no player, regardless of his stars is more important than the team. That was my mistake and I won't let it happen again.
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I'm far from a recruiter and no clue on what comes across best.
But as far as being honest, what I suggested is my honest GUESS.
I liked Debord personally but I'm sure he was more familiar with the traditional power back.
Didn't he say himself that he was trying to figure out how to utilize Kamara and get him more touches?

It may be a bad sales pitch (not my thing) but I'm not sure it would be dishonest.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
161 touches when factoring runs, receptions and punts. 1150 yards and 13 touchdowns.

I took out Bama and South Carolina games due to injury. I see your point but you really cut numbers down and included games he either didn't play or was injured.
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I just said what was in the article. May have only been referring to carries
 
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