Mike huguenin

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KBVol said:
Top15 class on 247 last year and top 10 on 247 this year. You made your comment in the context of disagreeing that UF finishes ahead of UT next year.....well, he's recruiting better than Jones right now, so.....
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No, I made my comment in the context of disagreeing with Hugenein that Butch's window had closed, which would imply that UF and UGA are clearly pulling away.

If you are going to paraphrase me then get it right.

My comment was that 1) UGA has out-recruited everyone in the East, with the exception of UF, for the last decade, with little to show for it, and that there is no evidence Smart can do more with talent than Richt. And 2) the difference in McIlwein's and Butch's recruiting is razor thin despite the fact that UF sits in a state that trails only Texas in producing D1 talent. So no, I don't see any clear indication that there is a widening talent gap between UF and UT.

Hence my original comment.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
I don't think he has ever had a good thing to say about Tennessee so this isn't surprising
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i said it last year when folks were banging on Greg Mc as someone who hated us, he did say some nice things till we pooped the season away, he picked us to win the East....he was very much in the bandwagon at the season start.....some how everyone missed that....or choose to ignore it


EDIT: last summer and into the start of season he was slurping us up....
 

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Dudleys87 said:
It's reached Florida mental block from a team standpoint. If he sees him it's like he falls in the fetal position and starts to hyperventilate
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No mental block. Team was flat as hell coming into the game. Then, Hurd quit in mid game and the drama and thus mistakes surrounding all of that going on while the game was being played was enough to get your butt beat.

Muschamp had the best defense and the best players when he was at Florida and thus he won. Fowler was the best player in '13 and '14 on the field and it showed. He was also drafted something like 5th or 6th overall so in the eyes of the NFL scouts, he was the best player in the last 4 Florida/ Tenn games cause none will be drafted that high in all probability.
 
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wesleydmartin said:
i said it last year when folks were banging on Greg Mc as someone who hated us, he did say some nice things till we pooped the season away, he picked us to win the East....he was very much in the bandwagon at the season start.....some how everyone missed that....or choose to ignore it


EDIT: last summer and into the start of season he was slurping us up....
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McElroy picked Florida to win the East in 2016.
 
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wmcovol said:
McElroy picked Florida to win the East in 2016.
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ur rite booger and marcus picked us, but he was high on us regardless

so there is still that, i may have been wrong with his Winner, but he wasnt being negative towards us.

and for what its worth, he was right
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
It hasn't. McIlwein is not exactly setting the world on fire in recruiting and UGA almost always out-recruits UT, and I see no evidence yet that Smart is any better of a HC than Richt was.
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UT's most talented team in more than a decade needed a miracle Hail Mary to beat Smart's first UGA team... but you see him as no better than Richt? That's a bit premature don't you think? I mean folks like you said Jones had to have at least 4 err... 5 err... 10 years before making an evaluation, right?
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
No, I made my comment in the context of disagreeing with Hugenein that Butch's window had closed, which would imply that UF and UGA are clearly pulling away.

If you are going to paraphrase me then get it right.

My comment was that 1) UGA has out-recruited everyone in the East, with the exception of UF, for the last decade, with little to show for it, and that there is no evidence Smart can do more with talent than Richt. And 2) the difference in McIlwein's and Butch's recruiting is razor thin despite the fact that UF sits in a state that trails only Texas in producing D1 talent. So no, I don't see any clear indication that there is a widening talent gap between UF and UT.

Hence my original comment.
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UF also hired Randy Shannon as their DC and just hired away that Seider guy from WVU.
They are about to wreck everyone in recruiting next year.

Georgia ALWAYS has Top10 classes but never anything to show for it. I'm not worried about them.

UT needs a coach and staff that can develop because there isn't enough elite level talent close by. Need Top10 classes plus good coaches.
 
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Help me understand why everyone is so high on UGA. Is it because they won an even more meaningless bowl game than UT played in? Maybe it's because they didn't beat UT and UF last season? Maybe it's because they finished 77th in total offense last season(which is worse than the previous season)? But they do return their "great" rushing attack that finished worse than the previous season. I guess it's because this is the greatest recruiting class Georgia has ever known and we all know that youth has never had issues adjusting to the level of play in college. Georgia has just as many questions as the other teams in the East. The only noticeable difference is UGA is returning their starting quarterback who looked very average most of the time last season as did their rushing attack but UGA loses most of their oline. He should improve next season but UGA travels to Tennessee, Auburn, Florida*, Notre Dame, and Georgia Tech. Whereas UT travels to Florida, Alabama, and Kentucky in terms of challenges.
 
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sjt18 said:
UT's most talented team in more than a decade needed a miracle Hail Mary to beat Smart's first UGA team... but you see him as no better than Richt? That's a bit premature don't you think? I mean folks like you said Jones had to have at least 4 err... 5 err... 10 years before making an evaluation, right?
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You are correct. I don't. UGA was at home; UT was coming off an emotional win over UF; Hurd let the team down with his lackadasial first half play, basically giving a TD away with his casual attempt at strolling into the EZ. We were without Sutton, JRM, and Kirkland.

And yet again, one of you incorrectly paraphrases me. I said I see no evidence yet that Smart is a better coach than Richt; I did not say he is no better than Richt.

And yes, I said we would need 4 years to evaluate Butch. But I am willing to give another year because of the defense being devastated by injuries. You, of course, evaluated Butch as a failure the day he was hired because his name wasn't Gruden. I get that.
 
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It's because they always recruit in the Top10 and have a great QB coming back.
 
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So going back to Huguenin's prediction - what should be done if it comes true?

If we go 8-4 next year and finish 3rd in the East in Butch's 5th year, does he get another one? Say the losses are Bama, UF, UGA, and LSU.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
So going back to Huguenin's prediction - what should be done if it comes true?

If we go 8-4 next year and finish 3rd in the East in Butch's 5th year, does he get another one? Say the losses are Bama, UF, UGA, and LSU.
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Losing to all the top dogs from each side he would have to be let go. No way to come back from that everything about the program would snowball
 
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If only some clown on the radio would say UT will finish 6th -- I wonder how a thread would end up with a prediction like that ?
 
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Sounds about right.

Everyone is looking up at Florida in the East the past two seasons and it took a miracle finish to beat a first year coach at GA.

The games are played on the field for sure but I don't see why anyone should be feeling particularly good about the Vols winning the East over those two next season.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
You are correct. I don't. UGA was at home; UT was coming off an emotional win over UF; Hurd let the team down with his lackadasial first half play, basically giving a TD away with his casual attempt at strolling into the EZ. We were without Sutton, JRM, and Kirkland.
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Excuses carry the stench of losers.

And yet again, one of you incorrectly paraphrases me. I said I see no evidence yet that Smart is a better coach than Richt; I did not say he is no better than Richt.
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:lolabove: Oh, OK. You are going to play semantics to try to wiggle out of what you said.

And yes, I said we would need 4 years to evaluate Butch. But I am willing to give another year because of the defense being devastated by injuries.
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UT had been "devastated" by injuries the previous two years. Do you not remember the high number of losses during the previous August camps? Jones said he had the issue studied and didn't find anything that needed to change. So he kept the same S&C staff. One change he did make and marked it up to having a more mature team was to soften up August... a lot. If you want to see Hurd's attitude being warped... go back and see the reports of Jones letting him and others give themselves days off for rest in August.

You, of course, evaluated Butch as a failure the day he was hired because his name wasn't Gruden. I get that.
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You of course are trying to use a deceptive tactic (read "lie") to evade hard facts. I was neutral on Jones when he was hired. I have praised Jones for things he's done well. But he has earned every single word of criticism I've posted about him with HIS BODY OF WORK.
 
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