Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXII

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jave36 said:
QC cannot, at least I'm pretty sure that's how it works. Sheridan was not a GA this past year.

Edit, yes, GA can coach, QC cannot.

NCAA Article 11: Conduct and Employment of Athletics Personnel:

11.7.2 Football Bowl Subdivision - There shall be a limit of one head coach, nine assistant coaches and two graduate assistant coaches who may be employed by an institution in bowl subdivision football.

11.7.2.1 Exceptions to Number Limits FBS - No individual other than coaches designated to fill the coaching categories set forth in Bylaw 11.7.2 may participate in any manner in the coaching of the intercollegiate team of a member institution during any football game, practice or other organized activity, with the following exceptions:

11.7.2.1.1 Weight or Strength Coach FBS - A weight (strength and conditioning) coach may conduct flexibility, warm-up and physical conditioning activities prior to any game and prior to or during any practice or other organized activities without being included in the limitations on number of coaches.

11.7.2.1.2 Undergraduate Coach FBS - The limits on the number of coaches in this section do not apply to undergraduate coaches.
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His bio on UTSPORTS.COM lists him as a GA. I know that he got here in 2014, and I thought the limit on GA was two years, so I am not sure. 247 sports has him as a GA also.
 
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No idea how far Tennessee pushes the envelope but I know Alabama doesn't pay 650 assistants not to have coaching contact with the kids. If they have a speciality and they're on staff, I would almost guarantee it gets used.
 
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BruinVol said:
Lol. VN thinking an illegal coach wAs the position coach for our QBs constitutes much more than an L.
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Who was the QB coach in 2015? Nick Sheridan

Was Nick Sheridan on staff in 2016? Yes. He was.

So either Nick Sheridan was the de facto QB coach again (possibly limited due to new title) or we didn't have one. Either way, Canales is an upgrade.

Debord was the OC and Mahoney babysitter. At best he was a part time QB coach. Again, Canales as full time QB coach is an upgrade.
 
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drvenner said:
His bio on UTSPORTS.COM lists him as a GA. I know that he got here in 2014, and I thought the limit on GA was two years, so I am not sure. 247 sports has him as a GA also.
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I'm pretty sure the limit is 2 years also. I read he was moved to QC this past summer, which meant he was no longer allowed to coach during practices.
 
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jave36 said:
I'm pretty sure the limit is 2 years also. I read he was moved to QC this past summer, which meant he was no longer allowed to coach during practices.
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GAs can stay longer than 2 years if they fulfill certain academic requirements. This was the case with Nick.
 
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chargervol said:
No idea how far Tennessee pushes the envelope but I know Alabama doesn't pay 650 assistants not to have coaching contact with the kids. If they have a speciality and they're on staff, I would almost guarantee it gets used.
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Alabama gets to do whatever the hell they want though. Nobody is allowed to question them. There is a very short list of schools that get to do that. We are not on that list.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
So we are supposed to judge Butch on the guys he fires?

What's your answer for Scott, Gillespie, Shoop and Warren?
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Oh, forgot to answer your question, yes I think it's perfectly fair to judge Butch on the guys he fires. After all, he hired them in the first place. It's not like he inherited them.
 
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BaldBiker said:
Alabama gets to do whatever the hell they want though. Nobody is allowed to question them. There is a very short list of schools that get to do that. We are not on that list.
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Well that's true.
So much of QB coaching is pushing the reads progression and footwork.
I'm not sure it would make a difference if Sheridan used film or on the field to do that.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Oh, forgot to answer your question, yes I think it's perfectly fair to judge Butch on the guys he fires. After all, he hired them in the first place. It's not like he inherited them.
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I would rather he fire them than take them to his grave like Fulmer did.

Staff turnover is a good thing in many cases.
 
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BaldBiker said:
Alabama gets to do whatever the hell they want though. Nobody is allowed to question them. There is a very short list of schools that get to do that. We are not on that list.
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SC, Notre Dame, OSU, Bama, Clemson snuck in, FSU(when good) who else
 
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HankHill said:
GAs can stay longer than 2 years if they fulfill certain academic requirements. This was the case with Nick.
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He's listed as QC, not GA, so we either violated ncaa rules, the media guide was a misprint, or he didn't coach QB for us.
 
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BruinVol said:
Lol. You yourself say he was the QC yet say he was the QB coach. Both those things aren't correct.
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Nick Sheridan as QC was what was in place as QB coach.

Not sure why that is hard to believe or understand.

We went an entire spring, summer and fall with an overweight gym teacher as our strength coach.
 
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The individual may not serve as a graduate assistant coach for a period of more than two years except that if the individual successfully completes 24-semester or 36-quarter hours during the initial two-year period, the individual may serve as a graduate assistant coach for a third year.

This is why Nick was able to qualify as a GA for a 3rd year.
 
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BruinVol said:
If he was worth cheating to use his as a primary position coach I assumed he had to be good. 😎
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It makes absolutely no sense at all for Tennessee to break the rules to have a QC guy on the field. So, either he was not a QC guy (ding ding ding), or he did not coach on the field. As Hank seems to have some very specific details, I am going with his information that he was on the field and was able to remain a GA for the 3rd year. I know it was reported that he was made a QC, but maybe they found a way to keep him on the field where he was needed more. I think that the media guide was published and then they found a way to keep him as a GA and that is who coached our QB, probably with some help from Jones and Debord (very limited). In any event, I would think that Canales will be an improvement but all of that remains to be seen.
 
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HankHill said:
The individual may not serve as a graduate assistant coach for a period of more than two years except that if the individual successfully completes 24-semester or 36-quarter hours during the initial two-year period, the individual may serve as a graduate assistant coach for a third year.

This is why Nick was able to qualify as a GA for a 3rd year.
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We've moved on from that. He was moved to QC, he was not a GA, so he wasn't allowed to coach. Unless multiple articles and the media guide mistakenly said he was moved to QC.
 
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HankHill said:
The individual may not serve as a graduate assistant coach for a period of more than two years except that if the individual successfully completes 24-semester or 36-quarter hours during the initial two-year period, the individual may serve as a graduate assistant coach for a third year.

This is why Nick was able to qualify as a GA for a 3rd year.
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Hank I am buying what you are selling about this Part of this being possible.

As for him being in charge of the QBs I don't believe in anyway.
 
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