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#876
#876
I do think there is an over obsession with the AD situation on this board. It's almost like the administration has personally wronged people here with this.

I recognize I can literally do nothing to fix the situation, so I'll just continue on with my life until a hire is made.
 
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#877
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Kingston Vol said:
Here's my thing: I think it's pretty obvious they're forcing Hart out. Seems likely to me they've come to some sort of an agreement and they're fine with taking their time and allowing him to continue to call the shots for the time being.

I get that this thing has taken a while and that's kind of annoying, but the freak out over it seems a little unwarranted to me. If Butch were to, you know, take a job somewhere else out of the blue or something crazy, we've got an AD in place to make a hire. It's not like we'd miss out on anything because we'd have to Scramble to hire an AD first
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That situation likely doesn't play out, but why would you want Hart, on his way out, making that kind of hire?
 
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#878
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BigZiti09 said:
Hart is powerless at this point and him being there has nothing to do with our power people screwing this up.
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Yep. If Butch bolted, would we really want Diamond Dave Hart, lame duck with a couple months and zero give-a-damn left, to make that hire? I wouldn't. He'd hire Dooley just to spite us.
 
#879
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Kingston Vol said:
Here's my thing: I think it's pretty obvious they're forcing Hart out. Seems likely to me they've come to some sort of an agreement and they're fine with taking their time and allowing him to continue to call the shots for the time being.

I get that this thing has taken a while and that's kind of annoying, but the freak out over it seems a little unwarranted to me. If Butch were to, you know, take a job somewhere else out of the blue or something crazy, we've got an AD in place to make a hire. It's not like we'd miss out on anything because we'd have to Scramble to hire an AD first
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Totally agree. People are acting like Neyland is literally crumbling down because we don't have a future AD hired right now. It isn't affecting any daily operations what so ever in any sport. The vol-mob brings out their pitch forks at the drop of a hat.
 
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#880
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Dust10 said:
I do think there is an over obsession with the AD situation on this board. It's almost like the administration has personally wronged people here with this.

I recognize I can literally do nothing to fix the situation, so I'll just continue on with my life until a hire is made.
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To me it's just a great illustration of a bigger picture problem we've had over there for years.

Terrible leadership and it's on full display right now with this three ring circus of embarrassment that is our AD search.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Here's my thing: I think it's pretty obvious they're forcing Hart out. Seems likely to me they've come to some sort of an agreement and they're fine with taking their time and allowing him to continue to call the shots for the time being.

I get that this thing has taken a while and that's kind of annoying, but the freak out over it seems a little unwarranted to me. If Butch were to, you know, take a job somewhere else out of the blue or something crazy, we've got an AD in place to make a hire. It's not like we'd miss out on anything because we'd have to Scramble to hire an AD first
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Seriously...how can you be this obtuse?
 
#883
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Dust10 said:
I do think there is an over obsession with the AD situation on this board. It's almost like the administration has personally wronged people here with this.

I recognize I can literally do nothing to fix the situation, so I'll just continue on with my life until a hire is made.
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Not a VFL IMO
 
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HankHill said:
Totally agree. People are acting like Neyland is literally crumbling down because we don't have a future AD hired right now. It isn't affecting any daily operations what so ever in any sport. The vol-mob brings out their pitch forks at the drop of a hat.
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Totally disagree. It amazes me how people like you cannot see why this is a big deal.
 
#885
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I absolutely disagree. Just because a person is 17 doesn't mean they can't recognize gross incompetence, or worse deliberate corruption. As a matter of fact you could say it would indicate a extreme lack of situational awareness or intelligence for a 16-17 year old to not recognize it she they see it. If a ref is bent, or just incompetent, he deserves absolutely no respect. They should be held to the highest standard.
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Kids can recognize gross incompetence but often don't have the emotional control to set about pointing it out in a grownup way when they are 16-18 years old. I didn't. Shoot, I still probably lose my cool too often for my age. When we feel wronged we want to let the wronger know that we know and they need to stop. It is a shame that refs are so blatant in their bias. They are supposed to be professionals and shouldn't have to have kids calling them out for their gross incompetence.
 
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HankHill said:
Totally agree. People are acting like Neyland is literally crumbling down because we don't have a future AD hired right now. It isn't affecting any daily operations what so ever in any sport. The vol-mob brings out their pitch forks at the drop of a hat.
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the base that eats its young. its a cycle of hatred and stupid.

M Moaning...about anything and everything
O Offended...that any recruit/coach could ever spurn us
R Raging...against the machine i.e. each other
A Antagonistic...Ill show CBJ on twitter!
N Negative...much more fun to complain right?
 
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#889
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BigZiti09 said:
Yes. And word is she is actively campaigning for Gilbert. Reeks of self preservation. Butch and Barnes are doing the same.
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I thought someone earlier (LWS, GFW, can't remember who) said that CBJ likes Blackburn as AD...that was a while back.
 
#890
#890
Dust10 said:
I do think there is an over obsession with the AD situation on this board. It's almost like the administration has personally wronged people here with this.

I recognize I can literally do nothing to fix the situation, so I'll just continue on with my life until a hire is made.
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Yup, that is the stance I have taken on it now. Earlier, I was also freaking out a bit, but I have learned to just let it be as it seems Butch is doing pretty well by his self with hires this cycle.

Of course, there is also the fact that I am not supposed to speak maliciously about/ disparage UT Athletics any more.
 
#891
#891
glichtenwalter said:
Kids can recognize gross incompetence but often don't have the emotional control to set about pointing it out in a grownup way when they are 16-18 years old. I didn't. Shoot, I still probably lose my cool too often for my age. When we feel wronged we want to let the wronger know that we know and they need to stop. It is a shame that refs are so blatant in their bias. They are supposed to be professionals and shouldn't have to have kids calling them out for their gross incompetence.
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Bad refs deserve what they get. My sons HS BB team was screwed out of their county championship by a group of bad officials. They were all alums of the HS that defeated my sons team...How is that even allowed to happen?
 
#892
#892
glichtenwalter said:
Yep. If Butch bolted, would we really want Diamond Dave Hart, lame duck with a couple months and zero give-a-damn left, to make that hire? I wouldn't. He'd hire Dooley just to spite us.
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Then receive a hero's welcome when he retires back in Tuscaloosa.
 
#894
#894
MockingVol said:
Yup, that is the stance I have taken on it now. Earlier, I was also freaking out a bit, but I have learned to just let it be as it seems Butch is doing pretty well by his self with hires this cycle.

Of course, there is also the fact that I am not supposed to speak maliciously about/ disparage UT Athletics any more.
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Not having an AD has zero impact on Butch recruiting or hiring assistant coaches.
 
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#895
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chavisut said:
That situation likely doesn't play out, but why would you want Hart, on his way out, making that kind of hire?
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That's fair, I guess. But like you said it's unlikely to happen. And more likely even in that scenario, the boosters make the call on who to hire. I think what's been proven is that, at least at Tennessee, the boosters make all the calls and the AD is a fundraiser/face of the operation.
 
#897
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Kingston Vol said:
That's fair, I guess. But like you said it's unlikely to happen. And more likely even in that scenario, the boosters make the call on who to hire. I think what's been proven is that, at least at Tennessee, the boosters make all the calls and the AD is a fundraiser/face of the operation.
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And they've been screwing it up long enough now to get someone in there to run things without their input.
 
#898
#898
Here's my point: if this thing goes another two or three months, but the end result is a Blackburn or Fulmer hire, what is the gripe? That it took so long? Sure. But all that will die down quickly.
 
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#899
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BigZiti09 said:
And they've been screwing it up long enough now to get someone in there to run things without their input.
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That's not going to happen. Lol. No one is going to have that kind of power. What Haslam and Anderson want, they get. End of story.
 
#900
#900
Ulysees E. McGill said:
Totally disagree. It amazes me how people like you cannot see why this is a big deal.
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It's only a big deal Bc you and volnation are in the unknown. which imo, is a good thing Bc it shows that powers that be are finally figuring out how to stop leaks. Like I've said earlier multiple memos were sent out to university employees about confidentially and media policy etc thanks to Haney.

THeres nothing that is being negatively affected Bc of this search.
 
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