What round will Josh Dobbs get drafted in, if at all?

[TennMan101]

Lots of analyst have Nathan Peterman going in the third or fourth round and that is just unbelievable because he was atrocious here and that is an understatement!!!

 

[YankeeVol]

Your problem is you put too much faith in the McShays and Kipers of the world. Those guys know nothing about a guy like Dobbs draft stock right now. They are shooting in the wind. NFL front offices haven't even put together draft boards yet. Other than for the guys with lots of hype like Deshaun Watson, nobody knows where the rest of the QBs fall in the pecking order.

Just go and look up mock drafts by guys like Kiper and McShay at this time LAST YEAR and then compare it to the actual results.

The draft evaluation process is just beginning. For a guy like Dobbs I'm sure his value in NFL front offices and among scouts is higher than among the media draft heads. Those guys are typically last to know on many things.

Except they get paid for their opinion and we just have to put up with yours.

 

[TennMan101]

I hate to be a downer, but Dobbs is absolutely not going to get drafted.

I'm not sure how many QBs on average get taken each draft year, but Dobbs is in the top 15 QBs on almost every website I can find. It may be the later rounds but I think he'll get drafted simply because a coach or GM will fall in love with him and his intangibles. I'll go ahead and predict Seattle Seahawks in round 4.

 

[YankeeVol]

More evaluations more changes. Just watched some tape on Marcus Maye. He's better than teammate Keanu Neal who went in the first round. Also got a chance to study Christian McCaffrey. He should be a good player in the NFL. A poor man's Alvin Kamara IMO.

Here's my new top 20:

1. DE Myles Garrett (Texas A&M)
2. DL Solomon Thomas (Stanford)
3. CB Cam Sutton (Tennessee)
4. WR Corey Davis (Western Michigan)
5. RB Alvin Kamara (Tennessee)
6. RB Joe Mixon (Oklahoma)
7. QB Joshua Dobbs (Tennessee)
8. QB Brad Kaaya (Miami)
9. CB Jourdan Lewis (Michigan)
10. DE Charles Harris (Missouri)
11. DT Caleb Brantley (Florida)
12. S Eddie Jackson (Alabama)
13. CB Marlon Humphrey (Alabama)
14. TE Evan Engram (Ole Miss)
15. RB Christian McCaffrey (Stanford)
16. RB Leonard Fournette (LSU)
17. S Marcus Maye (Florida)
18. DL Malik McDowell (Michigan State)
19. S Jamal Adams (LSU)
20. LB Jarrad Davis (Florida)

This draft is strong at RB, DL, and DB. Weak at OT and WR.

Trollolololololololololol

 

[GAVol]

I'm not typically a stats guy but just for arguments sake let us look at the top 10 QBs in the NFL for the 2016 season per ESPN's QBR statistic. Its not the best stat in the world but its a good baseline to determine exactly who were the top QBs in the NFL for the 2016 season and then we can look at where they were picked. Source: NFL Total Quarterback Rating - National Football League - ESPN

In 2016 the top 10 QBs in terms of Total QBR were:

1. Matt Ryan (1st round)
2. Tom Brady (6th round)
3. Dak Prescott (4th round)
4. Aaron Rodgers (1st round)
5. Kirk Cousins (4th round)
6. Drew Brees (2nd round)
7. Andrew Luck (1st round)
8. Matthrew Stafford (1st round)
9. Tyrod Taylor (6th round)
10. Ben Roetherlisberger (1st round)

As you can see 50% of the top 10 QBs of 2016 were drafted in the 2nd round or later while the other 50% were drafted in the first round. Drafting QBs is a 50/50 proposition. These NFL guys can pretend like they know who will be good around draft time but they really have no idea.

So, we've now gone from "they typically miss..." to half the top QBs being 1st rounders and 3 more basically being in the top half of the draft.

If you're going to troll, at least make it slightly believable.

 

[MustafaRasta]

They have info on who the top guys will be RIGHT NOW but they have no idea how the mid-round guys will shake out. Why? Because the NFL guys don't know that yet either. Their still evaluating guys.

Yet you, sitting at home have it all figured out.

The experts who do it for a living have no info on the "mid round guys" (read as: players from teams not named Tennessee) but you, being the true genius that you are...have all the info?

You know every college team and every NFL teams roster and subsequent needs because you are the true genius and all these other publications are playing pin the tail on the donkey and rolling dice to see who goes where.

They, in all their woeful ignorance are still evaluating guys but you in all your true genius have finished?


Seriously....check yourself into a mental health clinic.

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[KBVol]

Josh will be drafted no later than Rd 4 imo. I personally think he will be a very good NFL QB.

Based on what? I hope you're right, but most projections have him being the 10th-12th qb in the draft. Doubt 10-12 qbs will be taken in the first 4 rounds. I hope he goes by round 4, but I think 6th, 7th or UFA is more likely.

 

[OakRidgeVol]

Not even close. Hundley does not have Dobbs innate escapability in the pocket nor does he have the same scrambling ability. People seriously undervalue this skill. Its the reason he's closer to Russell Wilson than Brett Hundley. How often does Wilson by time by scrambling to find receivers downfield? How about Rodgers and Roethlisberger?

Dobbs (mainly because our o-line is so bad) has been making something out of nothing his whole career here. That skill will help him succeed his first few seasons in the NFL as he hones the ins and outs of being a pocket passer in a pro-style offense.

I compare Dobbs to Randall Cunningham in terms of his physical tools (height, weight, speed, arm strength) and his innate scrambling skills.

Comparing any college player to an all-time great NFL player is a mistake. Hundley is a dead on comparison, they have the same skill set. Hundley just didn't have to do it as much. Dobbs isn't special, smarter than the average player we see come through the draft, but he's a couple years away from being a competent passer. It's not his fault, college teams that run a spread option don't have time to mold them into true passers. Russell Wilson was actually a pretty solid passer coming out, he only lacked height. Terrible comparison to Dobbs, they're not alike at all. All of the QBs you listed are elite passers, Dobbs simply isn't there yet.

 

[OneVolNation]

The upside is HUGE for the team that's smart enough to draft Josh Dobbs with an early pick. He showed his gun and accuracy on that streak of games passing 80%+ and with an NFL line protecting him, we'll get to see those laser darts stick receivers right between the numbers on Sunday no matter which number he's selected. It still blows my mind how after becoming one of the best passing quarterbacks in Tennessee history, he did it while setting the school rushing record for quarterbacks at the same time.

Talk about a powerful dual threat game changer.
Passing or running, he would pick up the team on his back and get it done during clutch time when mere mortal QBs normally just wilt under all the pressure. Smooth operator. Cool customer. Ice in the veins.

(You didn't know if it was going to be that 50 yard Dobbnail boot pass for the game winning TD as time expired or if he would extend those Randall Cunningham Eagle wings to fly over the pylon midair the whole way from where he jumped from more than five yards out -- and didn't land again until he was in the end zone with the score.)

He can flat out make defenders look stupid when they fall on their faces, their arms hugging nothing but empty air where they swore Josh Dobbs was, except he wasn't.
He was long gone scoring another touchdown before the other team's coach and defensive coordinator figured out it was time to throw their hands in the air with that bewildered look on their faces that may as well have been a poster that said, "I can't figure out how to stop this quarterback."

Opposing head coaches all respected him as a dangerous threat to win the game against them because that's just what Josh Dobbs does.

He owns all the tools to be a star in the league and he has shown everyone that's followed him that he knows exactly how to use them to win.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Umm, dude...how bad are you at math? There is only 1 (ONE) first round and 50% of the top 10 QB's in the league came from that one round. Moreover, the average for the entire top 10 works out at mid 2nd round or higher.

But the GMs are supposed to know what they're doing. Why would only 50% of the top 10 be made up of first rounders? If a QB is starting caliber he's valued a first rounder. The fact 50% of the top 10 is made up of guys during the draft all 32 teams felt wasn't a capable starter is pretty damning on the quality of their work.

First round picks have essentially a 50% chance of being busts. Same with first overall picks at the QB position. For every Matt Stafford there is a Sam Bradford. This should let you know that these guys have no idea what they are doing. They're essentially guessing.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

So, we've now gone from "they typically miss..." to half the top QBs being 1st rounders and 3 more basically being in the top half of the draft.

If you're going to troll, at least make it slightly believable.

Do you know how many QBs get taken in the first round every year?

If these guys knew half as they try to pretend they do when it comes to evaluations, half their first round picks wouldn't totally bust.

Its actually embrassing to go and look over previous drafts and see how bad the players taken in round 1 are. Especially the QBs. But each new draft everyone forgets the failures and pretends every first round pick will be a star.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Based on what? I hope you're right, but most projections have him being the 10th-12th qb in the draft. Doubt 10-12 qbs will be taken in the first 4 rounds. I hope he goes by round 4, but I think 6th, 7th or UFA is more likely.

Keep believing these internet clowns and ESPN talking heads. They know nothing right now. Dobbs real draft value won't be known until the combine ends and all 32 teams see him throw and interview him.

Right now these dudes on Walterfootball and other sites are guessing like the rest of us. Matt Miller (the clown who does draft analysis for Bleacher Report) admitted he hasn't watched Dobbs play once all season but yet has no problem ranking him outside his top 10 QBs. He actually said he would use the senior bowl to get to evaluate him.

I'm telling you these guys are all guessing. Watch them all change their ranking of Dobbs after the senior bowl and combine. They'll use his performance there as an excuse for the big bump. When in reality Dobbs was always around that spot they just never got actual evaluations of Dobbs from NFL scouts.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Comparing any college player to an all-time great NFL player is a mistake. Hundley is a dead on comparison, they have the same skill set. Hundley just didn't have to do it as much. Dobbs isn't special, smarter than the average player we see come through the draft, but he's a couple years away from being a competent passer. It's not his fault, college teams that run a spread option don't have time to mold them into true passers. Russell Wilson was actually a pretty solid passer coming out, he only lacked height. Terrible comparison to Dobbs, they're not alike at all. All of the QBs you listed are elite passers, Dobbs simply isn't there yet.

Dobbs and Cunningham are spot on. Similar in almost every way from body type, arm talent, and athleticism.

Just watch what happens when he gets to the league.

 

[hndog609]

But the GMs are supposed to know what they're doing. Why would only 50% of the top 10 be made up of first rounders? If a QB is starting caliber he's valued a first rounder. The fact 50% of the top 10 is made up of guys during the draft all 32 teams felt wasn't a capable starter is pretty damning on the quality of their work.

First round picks have essentially a 50% chance of being busts. Same with first overall picks at the QB position. For every Matt Stafford there is a Sam Bradford. This should let you know that these guys have no idea what they are doing. They're essentially guessing.

Dear God, do you not understand how half of the top 10 QB's in the league being from the first round vs ALL OTHER DRAFTEES COMBINED represents a huge over representation? What exactly about the average of the entire top 10 having a middle 2nd round or higher draft position goes over your head?

If you're trying to argue that draft position is not nearly a definitive guarantee of success I'm with you. Having said that your example actually works counter to the point you were trying to make.

 

[GAVol]

Dobbs and Cunningham are spot on. Similar in almost every way from body type, arm talent, and athleticism.

Just watch what happens when he gets to the league.

Dobbs' arm is good enough to make NFL throws, but he's not in the same zip code as Randall Cunningham when it comes to arm strength.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Dobbs' arm is good enough to make NFL throws, but he's not in the same zip code as Randall Cunningham when it comes to arm strength.

Did you see that 60 yard bomb on a dime he threw against Missouri?

I was watching some Randall Cunningham highlights and I saw the same throw.

Just wait until the combine when everyone is wowed by Dobbs arm. Then you'll be like we all knew he had a strong arm.

 

[Smokey X]

It would not surprise me to see him go first round. Both New Orleans QB's are age 35 or more. Someone else already mentioned Titans which makes sense as well. Also, as dumb as this sounds, I wouldn't put it past the Cowboys to go after him. Romo will probably be traded, Sanchez has not really panned out anywhere he has been, and Prescott has carried them. Prescott and Dobbs have similar styles and toughness and Prescott needs a backup. My prediction is before round 2 is complete he will be taken.

 

[GAVol]

Did you see that 60 yard bomb on a dime he threw against Missouri?

I was watching some Randall Cunningham highlights and I saw the same throw.

Just wait until the combine when everyone is wowed by Dobbs arm. Then you'll be like we all knew he had a strong arm.

Dobbs' arm is good enough to make NFL throws, but he's not in the same zip code as Randall Cunningham when it comes to arm strength.

 

[BearCat204]

Dobbs' arm is good enough to make NFL throws, but he's not in the same zip code as Randall Cunningham when it comes to arm strength.

It's like talking to a wall

 

[81Orange]

Has the brain needed in the NFL. Physical talent yes. The question is if he learned enough while at TN. He didn't have a a steller QB coach. It will take time to fill in the blanks and develop pocket QB skills and the NFL doesn't wait.
Coach Cutliff would have made him a round 1 selection.
I say Round 3 based on future potential, working as a 2 or 3 backup for a few years. Has a lot of up side potential.

 

[OneVolNation]

Did you see that 60 yard bomb on a dime he threw against Missouri?

I was watching some Randall Cunningham highlights and I saw the same throw.

Just wait until the combine when everyone is wowed by Dobbs arm. Then you'll be like we all knew he had a strong arm.

He's thrown a lot of them. Here's another one from a year ago. He threw it standing at his own 20 and then Malone caught it at about the 25 yard line on the other side of the field -- 55 yards down field right on a line where only the receiver could get it and it went for 75 yards and a Touchdown.

=> http://www.espn.com/core/video/iframe?id=14021620

As you can see, it was while being pressured and he displayed big arm downfield accuracy while at the same time evading a would-be sack with his mobility. Makes it look easy, doesn't he?

Josh Dobbs owns all the tools for success in the NFL and he's proven he knows how to use them to win.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I'll guess 5th round.

 

[Escape Goat]

It would be interesting to see him progress if he got picked up by someone like the Seahawks and learned behind Russell Wilson for a few years.

Lol. Wilson has like 5-10 more years left before he retires. How would that benefit Dobbs to go there, and blow through his entire rookie contract before he sees a down, unless Wilson gets hurt. Which he hasn't to date.

 

[OneVolNation]

That game against Florida in 2016 he scored 5 touchdowns when he threw 3 touchdowns and had over 300+ yards passing and ran for 2 more touchdowns with over 100+ more yards rushing; Dobbs stood in the pocket and took a hit right as he was delivering each touchdown strike downfield. :ninja:

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The smart money knows Josh Dobbs owns all the tools for success in the NFL because he's proven he knows how to use them to win.

Griffith, Mike. “Josh Dobbs Enters Heisman Trophy Conversation.” SEC Country, SEC Country, 28 Sept. 2016, www.seccountry.com/tennessee/tennessees-josh-dobbs-emerges-among-fringe-heisman-trophy-candidates. Vine courtesy of Cole Cubelic tweet and republished by Mike Griffith on SEC Country.

 

[The Dog]

I am a die hard Eagles fan. Fell.in love with Wilbur Montgomery, Harold Carmichael and Ron Jaworski, they made a Super Bowl and lost to them damn Raiders. Then came Randall Cunningham, Keith Byers, Keith Jackson, Jerome Brown and our main man Reggie White. Plus u had to love Buddy Ryan but they never quite got it done. Almost 4got about Andre Waters loved him,also. Those teams never made a Super Bowl or even a NFC championship game. Randall went to Minnesota and went off with Randy Moss and went 15-1 and choked in the 1st round of the playoffs.

I love Dobbs, hope he gets drafted and plays or at least gets 5 years and a pension but Randall was a different level than any QB until Cam. Some may say Vick, but I wouldn't, run 1st.Randall is the closest thing to Aaron Rogers, with more speed and not quite Rogers pocket presence. Dobbs is nowhere near that, maybe he can develop it, but it seems to me, u either have or u don't.

Some team we give Dobbs a chance, on the last day, my prediction 6th or 7th round. He deserves it. Top 5 in UT history, Manning, Condredge, Clausen, Dobbs and Martin, IMO