Ukraine II: The Fight Against Russian Aggression

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LOL at the last sentence

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carlos86 said:
Say it with me now " Constitutional Crisis"

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html
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couple things.

It seems really bad but I have some questions.

1. source? both who is providing and where are these coming from. they don't look to official to me, but what do I know.
2. It talks about intelligence for five years and sources going back to the 80s but the only dates and verified stuff is from 2014 onwards.
3. Only thing I saw in there that had "proof" of Trump working with the Russians was giving the Russians information on what Russian oligarchs are doing in the US. also the underage girls are underage for the US, legal in Russia. still makes it freaking disgusting and weird but not illegal.
4. The highlighter makes it seem worse than it is. A couple of the non-highlighted sections say that the before is unconfirmed or dates back from more than 5 years ago (pre presidential run) and there is no continuation of contact.
5. The report also mentions the Russians being upset by the ties back to them and wanting to cut their losses.
 
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carlos86 said:
The pieces are falling into place.
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falling into place?

how is there may or may not be a warrant, and even if there was a warrant it probably didn't find enough for a full investigation, things falling into place? especially when this is dated from a couple months ago.
 
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LouderVol said:
falling into place?

how is there may or may not be a warrant, and even if there was a warrant it probably didn't find enough for a full investigation, things falling into place? especially when this is dated from a couple months ago.
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Both Carter Page and Paul Manefort are currently under FBI investigation.
 
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Velo Vol said:
LOL at the last sentence

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kompromat: the Russian term for compromising materials about a politician or other public figure. Such materials can be used to create negative publicity, for blackmail, or for ensuring loyalty.Widespread use of kompromat has been one of the characteristic features of politics in Russia and other post-Soviet states.
 
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carlos86 said:
kompromat: the Russian term for compromising materials about a politician or other public figure. Such materials can be used to create negative publicity, for blackmail, or for ensuring loyalty.Widespread use of kompromat has been one of the characteristic features of politics in Russia and other post-Soviet states.
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Yes it has and we do the same thing although we're not quite as skilled or ruthless.
 
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Tillerson just said he is supports the arming of Ukrainian forces and the providing of intelligence to Ukrainian forces he just won my respect. Force and more dead Russians is the only thing Putin will understand.
 
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Burhead said:
Tillerson just said he is supports the arming of Ukrainian forces and the providing of intelligence to Ukrainian forces he just won my respect. Force and more dead Russians is the only thing Putin will understand.
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That can't be, he's a Russian spy per Carlos
 
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Burhead said:
Tillerson just said he is supports the arming of Ukrainian forces and the providing of intelligence to Ukrainian forces he just won my respect. Force and more dead Russians is the only thing Putin will understand.
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How about we try and work with global leaders instead of imposing our will? That's why Trump was appealing to people.

It's past time people see that continual war, and the threat of continual war, does but one thing....make globalist and their warhawking, politician cronies richer by exploiting tax dollars and American lives...

Let's find diplomatic ways and spend money on the deteriorating American infrastructure and it's people instead of spending it on arming the globe..
 
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Pacer92 said:
How about we try and work with global leaders instead of imposing our will? That's why Trump was appealing to people.

It's past time people see that continual war, and the threat of continual war, does but one thing....make globalist and their warhawking, politician cronies richer by exploiting tax dollars and American lives...

Let's find diplomatic ways and spend money on the deteriorating American infrastructure and it's people instead of spending it on arming the globe..
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We wouldn't need to be arming Ukrainian combat forces if the Russians hadn't first annexed Crimea and than invaded eastern Ukraine.
 
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Burhead said:
We wouldn't need to be arming Ukrainian combat forces if the Russians hadn't first annexed Crimea and than invaded eastern Ukraine.
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And Russia wouldn't have done either if they were concerned in the slightest about the consequences.
 
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Burhead said:
We wouldn't need to be arming Ukrainian combat forces if the Russians hadn't first annexed Crimea and than invaded eastern Ukraine.
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Still parroting that aggressive Russian theme, I see. Knowing full well that we started it all by orchestrating a coup of the Ukrainian government...
 
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