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Here's my question, as objective as it can be.

Why would Butch promote Scott if he has NO experience calling plays? I get it...Butch controls the play calling, but it would be even harder to manage in game calls while simultaneously controlling the plays that Scott is calling.

Doesn't make much sense to me.
 
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ReaderVol said:
After our recent history there is NO WAY IN HELL the admin will make a change next year barring scandal. They will even give him 1 losing season. People don't have to like it but that is the reality.
Do any of you not remember the fact that we were in major debt when Jones was hired? Folks get used to it. He's here for a minimum of 18 barring scandal.

And before people start the "he had a losing season in his first year". The admit won't consider that because they saw very big improvement.
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Yeah, when he was hired, but not anymore. The University isn't rolling in dough but they aren't broke.

The funds aren't there for some type of break-the-bank hire but they could buy him out and pay another guy a similar type of salary. Of course, once that happened, the same people calling for Butch's head would be raising hell that we didn't hire a "big time coach."

If he wins 6 or 7 games next year but isn't fired, that would absolutely kill recruiting for a couple of years. Everybody would know he was a lame duck coach.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Here's my question, as objective as it can be.

Why would Butch promote Scott if he has NO experience calling plays? I get it...Butch controls the play calling, but it would be even harder to manage in game calls while simultaneously controlling the plays that Scott is calling.

Doesn't make much sense to me.
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If that is the case, then that's a downgrade from Debord IMO
 
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Remember when our biggest concern was that Randy Sanders was not a top elite OC for the Vols?
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Here's my question, as objective as it can be.

Why would Butch promote Scott if he has NO experience calling plays? I get it...Butch controls the play calling, but it would be even harder to manage in game calls while simultaneously controlling the plays that Scott is calling.

Doesn't make much sense to me.
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Its like this

Its not hard deciding between Run left, run right, screen pass, QB run, and punt
 
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ReaderVol said:
Read my question again. Perhaps slowly this time or get someone to explain it to you.

What was your reaction to Shoop getting hired? We're you right? LOL
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Yep, hiring Shoop, and forcing him to keep coaches like Martinez on staff, that worked out wonders for us this season didn't it.

How many schools broke offensive records off of our poor DB play?

If the Vols come out looking as unprepared every game next season and up 2-3 to start , he won't make it to 2018 no matter how much you want it to happen.

I'm sure you'll follow him to to whatever busted MAC/ school he lands at since you seem to have an undying adoration of him and his cliche-coaching style.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
Oh,you can count on it.
Jones will tell us all that "fit" is more important than a name. (Meaning someone willing to adopt his system no questions asked)
Then we will get the generic lecture about relationships and how we need someone who appreciates what a "special" place Tennessee is. Then he will address the faction of the fanbase who wanted a big name hire in a condescending manner. In a gentle rant filled with snide and sarcastic remarks, he will explain just how silly we are and know nothing of the process of winning.

Then he will introduce last season's water boy as the new OC.

Then prepare yourself for an entire off season of Butch apologists defending his decision and echoing his press conference here on VN.
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And no one will tell them they are stupid sheep settling for mediocrity. It will be a logical civil debate.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Here's my question, as objective as it can be.

Why would Butch promote Scott if he has NO experience calling plays? I get it...Butch controls the play calling, but it would be even harder to manage in game calls while simultaneously controlling the plays that Scott is calling.

Doesn't make much sense to me.
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They could do it because much of what they do is scripted during the week before the game. He even said this verbatim yesterday:

https://tennessee.rivals.com/news/jones-updates-his-coordinator-search

They run an old school, conservative, junior varsity-style play calling philosophy on offense. It's a fake hurry up/up tempo style, because they get to the line but then take 15-20 seconds to check the sideline for the play call.

It isn't dynamic and does not change based on the situation in the game, isn't necessarily designed to feed your best players the ball, and isn't designed to exploit individual matchups where you have the advantage.

The best way I know how to describe it is that they somehow decide earlier in the week on a particular type of play they want to run during the game (screens, draws, etc.) and then just run their script during the game.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Yep, hiring Shoop, and forcing him to keep coaches like Martinez on staff, that worked out wonders for us this season didn't it.

How many schools broke offensive records off of our poor DB play?

If the Vols come out looking as unprepared every game next season and up 2-3 to start , he won't make it to 2018 no matter how much you want it to happen.

I'm sure you'll follow him to to whatever busted MAC/ school he lands at since you seem to have an undying adoration of him and his cliche-coaching style.
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How's Penn State doing without Shoop? Or Vandy? I'll wait..

All points he fails to recognize.
 
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You guys keep bringing up Shoop and him not allowed to bring his assistants, or being forced to work with the ones on staff already.

Then tell me, why the hell would he have accepted the job if that were the case? Did he really want out of PSU that much?! I don't believe that nonsense for one second.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
That tells me it's def Gilbert then.
Larry/Zach Co OCs


Tennessee finds an entire Staff in '18
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I REALLY want to put you on ignore, but I don't want to miss all the backtracking you have to do eventually. I assume you'll only post that in one thread instead of repeating the exact same thing over and over in every single thread on VN...
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Here's my question, as objective as it can be.

Why would Butch promote Scott if he has NO experience calling plays? I get it...Butch controls the play calling, but it would be even harder to manage in game calls while simultaneously controlling the plays that Scott is calling.

Doesn't make much sense to me.
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They say he is a great coach. He did well as the U interim coach. He is going to get a HC or OC position somewhere if he stays or leaves.
 
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Probably_in_Class said:
I REALLY want to put you on ignore, but I don't want to miss all the backtracking you have to do eventually. I assume you'll only post that in one thread instead of repeating the exact same thing over and over in every single thread on VN...
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I won't backtrack there's no point.
It's my opinion because I have zero faith in Jones to do what's right
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
You guys keep bringing up Shoop and him not allowed to bring his assistants, or being forced to work with the ones on staff already.

Then tell me, why the hell would he have accepted the job if that were the case? Did he really want out of PSU that much?! I don't believe that nonsense for one second.
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I think he miscalculated that Tennessee was closer to elite status than Penn State was. It certainly wasn't about money - he's making basically the same money he was at Penn State.
 
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Nobody on VN knows anything about who CBJ will hire or even when he does anounce who it is will know whether or not it is a good hire. Debord was a terrible hire that turned out pretty good and Shoop was a great hire and after 1 season hasn't been very good. According to VN a inside hire is terrible and a outside hire is great. Nobody's on VN, including me, knows crap. The difference is I'm willing to admit my ignorance.

P.S. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge on a subject and not an IQ term.
 
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