Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXI

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According to bowl season and head to head schedule, Vols are the second best team in the SEC? I hope it shows in the rankings.
 
#6,378
#6,378
Top half of SEC

1) Bama
2) LSU
3) Tennessee
4) Florida
5) Georgia
6) Tamu
7) Arkansas

Imo
 
#6,380
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The tweet literally said "OU players fake punching Mixon". Aside from the chin-scratching emoji, it's a pretty objective title.

The Oklahoma teammates did in fact make punching gestures that obviously didn't hurt. The text of the tweet is factual. The emoji is likely someone who is implying, "Eehhh not a great look."

I've seen a lot of football over the years, meaning I've seen a lot of celebrations. Unless we're talking macho 80's and karate-obsessed 90's, I haven't really seen a whole bunch of fake fighting as a means of celebration. Head(helmet)butts and taps, buttslaps, sure. Punching gestures to the facemask and torso, not so much.

If this was premeditated, it's most likely that this is just a misguided "I stand by my teammate" statement, through the sense of humor of young men that haven't learned everything the world has to teach them. If it wasn't premeditated, maybe this is just an opportune time to grow some self-awareness.

Of course because it's twitter and this is an issue where there's gonna be no grand, sweeping resolution between unnecessary violence and second chances. Also, the public is too bored and will analyze too quickly how irrelevant things make them feel. So enjoy the spat, and thank lord it's Oklahoma and not Tennessee.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Would it be OK for me to wish Nixon would punch Tony in the face? He's now found that he can ruin the tweets thread. Last bastion of senility.
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Either a mod or Freak needs to step in at this point. EDIT - looks like someone did.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Over analyzing a natural celebration just because of the player. Been plenty of stupid things they have done today but that isn't one of them
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That's intentional. They know damn well all they have to say is 'oh we were just playin' around.' Don't believe it for a minute. They're perfectly aware of it and Mixon is laughing his ass off over it while it's going on because he's aware of it too.

FWIW, Mixon encouraged Auburn fans to keep up a chant that referenced him and what he did. College football players aren't as dumb as many want to think they are when so quick to give them a pass.

The worst part though isn't the immature college players but that Oklahoma football has always sanctioned this kind of behavior and far worse under Stoops. Hell yeah, they're celebrating a girl getting punched out by fake punching the man who did it. Why? Because they know damn well that the rest of them have been given the same free pass by OU and Big Game Bob to do similar and/or worse so long as they're ballers and maybe even if they're not. And let's not forget Bob not only scooped up a dismissed DGB from Mizzou but also fought like hell to get him an exemption so he could play immediately by saying that he was wrongfully forced out by Mizzou (thankfully the NCAA said no).

Stoops' past is far longer and even more sordid when it comes to stuff like this (those two are hardly the worst offenders he's covered up for) but since folks will immediately ask for another recent event there's that one. And Stoops isn't the worst coach in terms of covering up for OU players that Oklahoma has had. They have a legitimate culture problem.

Stryker showed the same amount of class at Neyland for the same reason: Bob and OU football approve.
 
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csprig9 said:
Coach got smart, played a true freshman who was better over experience and seniority. Hope butch takes notes
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Nope. USC's coach felt after spring and fall that Max Browne was the best option at QB to win games. After starting with three losses he was forced to make a change with suggestions from his players.

Your point was off base. Also Darnold is a redshirt freshman which makes his decision making more baffling. He's had Darnold for almost 2 years before naming him a starter.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Nope. USC's coach felt after spring and fall that Max Browne was the best option at QB to win games. After starting with three losses he was forced to make a change with suggestions from his players.

Your point was off base. Also Darnold is a redshirt freshman which makes his decision making more baffling. He's had Darnold for almost 2 years before naming him a starter.
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Maybe he wouldn't have been good immediately? Maybe the extra time helped his development? Maybe USC is one of the best teams in the country currently and Helton should get a little cred?
 
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butchna said:
Maybe he wouldn't have been good immediately? Maybe the extra time helped his development? Maybe USC is one of the best teams in the country currently and Helton should get a little cred?
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Players on USC were clamoring for Darnold to start. Coaches were worried about Max Brownes feelings and thought he made more consistent throws.

The USC turnaround goes as much to Darnold as Helton. Rick neuheisel has talked about this numerous times on Sirius.
 
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Next year's hype will probably be Georgia in the EAST due to Michel/Chubbs and their recruiting class, and nationally USC, Penn State and always Bama.

I prefer VOLS being under the radar..
 
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utvols88 said:
to be fair, Auburn got beat by tamu and Uga. maybe florida. definitely arkansas though.
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We also lost to Vandy and SCjr, would you put them above us?

I think auburn is better than A&M and Georgia, like I think Tennessee is still better than Vandy and SC
 
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utvols88 said:
to be fair, Auburn got beat by tamu and Uga. maybe florida. definitely arkansas though.
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Auburn also just got the second most important quarterback of Gus's tenure. Stidman is unreal and they will be exceptional next year.

LSU will be what they were this year. In my opinion anyway.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Auburn also just got the second most important quarterback of Gus's tenure. Stidman is unreal and they will be exceptional next year.

LSU will be what they were this year. In my opinion anyway.
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I'm a big fan of what LSU did this year with what they decided to do. Canada and Aranda are the best of the best.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Auburn had a better record, ranked higher and beat LSU. Why would LSU deserve to be there? Would've been same or similar outcome.
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just as far as entertaining bowl games as a fan, i think it would have made both games better. fpi and myself agree that lsu was better than auburn.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
We also lost to Vandy and SCjr, would you put them above us?

I think auburn is better than A&M and Georgia, like I think Tennessee is still better than Vandy and SC
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The teams you're referencing are both 6-7 while we are 9-4.

The teams I'm referencing are 8-5 for Uga, Auburn and tamu. Throughout the year they have at least proven to be highly competitive.

it's not the same thing and you know it.
 
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kw3953 said:
Agreed, that was a very weird celebration with a teammate phantom punching MIXON. I guess coincidence... 👎🏿
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I would say 'overanalyzing' in most situations. Not this one. This controversy has not been lost on the entire OU team recently. They knew full well what they were doing and it was intentional. Disgusting.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
I'm a big fan of what LSU did this year with what they decided to do. Canada and Aranda are the best of the best.
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I agree. The best answer for Saban is LSU after they hired Ogre for the HC and Canada at OC while retaining Aranda. That's a strong combo.
 
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I only paid partial attention to the Sugar Bowl when it was on last night, so I missed the comments in real time, but I listened to them this morning. Oh, Joe Mixon is doing "fine," is he, Brent? I'm glad to hear he's working through what must have been a very traumatic event for him.

The sports media, man...
 
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