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Loaded question and Gaulden navigated it well.

Also, screw any UT fan talking boycott

I haven't even seen it brought up.

It's just a bad look regardless because it's getting retweeted like crazy..makes the fanbase look even worse.

Parker shouldn't have asked something so ridiculous.
 
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Now Dobbs retweeted it & i'm sure other players too so it'll be seen by hundreds of thousands on twitter now.

Wonderful

f*** All Them!!

- Butch Jones

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Anyone watching the Miami WV game think that kick-catch interference call was terrible?

Yes - it was. Have seen far more "encroachment" on punts not get called this season.

But the officiating is horrid as usual. No targeting on Peterman sack in the NW/Pitt game as an example. I've seen more uncalled offensive holding than ever before. Go ahead and tackle or clothesline the d-line - no calls.
 
Do other teams have media people scour the internet looking for the most extreme and terrible comments made by any and everyone on fan sites or comment sections and then highlight them like it's a freakin' mass epidemic? Good grief. I'm sure there's a Bama fan saying something worthy of excommunication right now somewhere, but for some reason day in and day out all I see is Tennessee being raked through the mud.
 
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I don't know if this is correct but in regards to Big Jim, I was told he is not as driven when it comes to athletics as much as he used to be.

As to the donors, I was told that there has been a concerted effort to reduce booster influence. They want their money unconditionally. An example of this was when Cuonzo was here. Many wanted him gone but Hart wouldn't fire him. Very similar to the Texas/Strong situation where Cuonzo wasn't much for rubbing shoulders with the boosters. So when Hart refused to fire him, certain boosters said "fine but he ain't using my plane".


Also, if you look at it from a pure business perspective, it's a winning formula, for the books anyway. From a simple profit standpoint it's hard to argue with it. My question is, how long will that


formula hold up? When will UT fans say screw it I'm done?

I am getting close to throwing my hands up. Not because of Butch but because how they are handling the AD and how they want our money but don't really care about product. Going to wait and see how things play out. They can't continue to assume blind support.
 
Moreso than OC & DC and schemes, it appears position & S&C coaching may be more the areas that need some fixes. Visible problems & symptoms include abnormal rate of injuries, player & depth development, fundamentals & execution, etc.
 
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Moreso than OC & DC and schemes, it appears position & S&C coaching may be more the areas that need some fixes. Visible symptoms are abnormal rate of injuries, player & depth development, fundamentals, execution, etc.

Sooo... all our coaching in general? Lol
 
Those "FANS" are among us on this board. Have seen the "boycott" mentality promoted by several so-called fans in a number of threads. They probably never went to the games in the first place. It is a shame that the internet allows them to act like they speak for a fanbase, WHICH THEY DO NOT!!!!!!!

Go Big Orange. Always.
 
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Sooo... all our coaching in general? Lol
If Butch makes some good staff changes and gets those problem areas fixed and thereby develops and coaches up the talent that's on the Vols' roster, Tennessee should be able to win the East in 2017.

But, doing the same things and expecting better results is...well you know.
 
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I'm just of the opinion that culture problems just don't all magically go away in one year. Some of that stuff will still be around lingering.

Also, I don't see the talent on the roster that most of you do. QB play will probably be solid, but I think we'll regress from Dobbs' production. There's only one SEC RB on the roster. WR's are very good. TE has been hit or miss with the Wolves. OL has consistently struggled under Mahoney. (I understand a change may be made here but even that can backfire if there is too much change.) We have two proven DE's then a bunch of unknowns. DT is very top heavy. One rolled ankle there and we're in trouble. LB's are small for the SEC and were nonexistent for large stretches this season. And we all know the problems we've had in the secondary.

On top of all this - there are no clear cut difference makers coming in from this recruiting class besides Trey Smith. We need more than bodies. We need game changers. Alabama, LSU, Florida, etc. get 4 or 5 of those guys each year.

Please find another team, your schtick gets real old. Same post written in almost every thread by you. I wasn't in the slow class at school, I get it!!
 
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Seriously, I know Butch could and should be more honest, but now I am starting to get why he doesn't say much to our media. I just don't understand.

There were some rumblings after the Vandy game by a select few to boycott the bowl, but that was quickly dispelled when UT sold their allotment.

We have some real winners...media and fans.
 
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Seriously, I know Butch could and should be more honest, but now I am starting to get why he doesn't say much to our media. I just don't understand.

There were some rumblings after the Vandy game by a select few to boycott the bowl, but that was quickly dispelled when UT sold their allotment.

We have some real winners...media and fans.
"think of how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that." yes stupider, george carlin, not me.
 
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our media is the worst in the country, they love starting ****. I really wish they would all shut the hell up and stop starting **** with our crazy fanbase. If they were any good they would be writing articles everyday about the ad search and why its taking so long or why the leadership at ut in general is awful and slow as hell at making decisions. They are too busy printing every little secret they hear regardless of credibility trying to see who has the smallest d***. Thats all they are is d***less, worthless *******s. I dont blame butch for being so monotone with them, id ban them from all practices, speaking to any players and answer every question after games with "we played hard" until they decided to be real journalists
 
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These are the same fans that drove off Cuonzo Martin in the middle of a sweet sixteen run. These fans make zero sense to me.

Honestly not sure what spoiled them so much.

Personally I'd love the media to go after elements of our fanbase. They deserve it and I think they are part of the problem
 
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