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chavisut said:
They did matter. Games that mattered a little more didn't go their way.

Expand playoff and PAC12 game doesn't matter. ACC game doesn't matter. Ohio State v Michigan doesn't really matter.
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How can you say any of those games in 2nd half of the season mattered? OU won everything after OSU and it meant nothing.

There are many more games that would matter that are meaningless in the current system. Dozens of games played by top teams I listed were meaningless once they lost early. Yes you'd have a few games become meaningless that aren't now, but far fewer IMO
 
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jave36 said:
I'm not on board with 16, but I agree that many more games would matter if you expand the playoff. None of Penn States games mattered later in the season, none of Wisconsins mattered, none of Oklahoma mattered, none of USCw mattered once they and many others lost early. An expanded playoff would have made all those games and a lot more mean something instead of being meaningless.
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Im all for expanding but not to 16. I see your point that those game didn't technically matter, but you have to look at it from the other point of view as well. They didn't matter because they already lost a game or two. If Penn State hadn't gotten obliterated against Michigan earlier in the season then their games later in the season would have mattered for sure.

In my mind, if you lose more than two you don't deserve to be in the playoffs. That's why I see a 6 team playoff being perfect.
 
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appyvol said:
Disagree. I think it would add more meaning. Suddenly games that didn't matter would. 16 teams, 10 conference champions, 6 at large teams.
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16? Wow. You really think a game like Western Michigan vs. Bama would mean something? Just be another blowout. I'm good with 4 team and 8 at the absolute most but 16 would be awful. That would likely put a couple 3 or 4 loss teams in the playoffs. WEAK
 
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I'm beginning to really question the leadership at the university. If the leaders are clueless there really is no reason to be mad at coaches and those under them because until the top line of command gets it together there isn't much the others can do. We just gotta hope we get lucky
 
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chavisut said:
They did matter. Games that mattered a little more didn't go their way.

Expand playoff and PAC12 game doesn't matter. ACC game doesn't matter. Ohio State v Michigan doesn't really matter.
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Pac 12 would certainly matter. Colorado finished 10. With a win, they are in an 8 team playoff.

If there is a policy that 5 teams in an 8 team playoff are conference champs, then OSU/Michigan still matters, too. ACC game would then matter too.

There may be some games that don't matter in any scenario, but I agree that more games will matter with an 8 team playoff.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Don't need a search firm! Hire Blackburn!!! Good grief. Who are these people? Are they clueless? Good grief this is so simple. Hire me to be your search firm. I'll take your money and call Blackburn. Job done, search ended
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I'll bet you dollars to donuts political correctness is playing a huge role in this. It's been UT's raison d'etre lately.
 
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SergeantVol said:
I think that if the P5 champs had automatic bids and then x amount of at large spots, then the regular season would matter. Why should the BIG 10 champ be left out while OSU, who didn't win their conference, be included? Fwiw I think there should be 3 at large spots so the really good G5 teams could have a shot.
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I want to hear how this wouldn't work and someone to logically explain why a team shouldn't have to win their conference to be in.
 
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jave36 said:
How can you say any of those games in 2nd half of the season mattered? OU won everything after OSU and it meant nothing.

There are many more games that would matter that are meaningless in the current system. Dozens of games played by top teams I listed were meaningless once they lost early. Yes you'd have a few games become meaningless that aren't now, but far fewer IMO
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At the time they were played they certainly mattered.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Pac 12 would certainly matter. Colorado finished 10. With a win, they are in an 8 team playoff.

If there is a policy that 5 teams in an 8 team playoff are conference champs, then OSU/Michigan still matters, too. ACC game would then matter too.

There may be some games that don't matter in any scenario, but I agree that more games will matter with an 8 team playoff.
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Teams like Va Tech or Florida don't deserve a playoff berth.
 
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I would say that Davenport will interview both this week. Also she will be getting input from major donors and other interested parties. I look for a decision in early January. Once done and announced, the new AD will begin meeting with coaches and doing his own evaluation. I would say that a lot will be accomplished prior to his actually being officially in the position. Also he will need to assemble a staff. That is not an easy task as well. One way or another, it will all work out.

I'm sure that CBJ knows at this point what steps he needs to make to get the program back on track. I would be shocked if he doesn't have an overall framework for the 2017 staff. He probably has made contact with potential assistants at this point.
 
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As far as how long the process takes, I don't care as long as Blackburn is hired. My only question is if it does take until February to hire him, will Butch still technically be able to make changes to his football staff before February?
 
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Ron Swanson said:
It's a slippery slope. Starts with 4 but that's not good enough we need 8. 8 won't be good enough either we'll need 16 and so on...just like CBB.

EVERY SINGLE REGULAR SEASON GAME MATTERS IN CFB. EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND IS MUST WATCH TV. You want that to go away? I don't. And it will if the playoffs expand no doubt about it. It's already happening to an extent.
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If you take it to eight. By including the 5 conference champs and three at large teams. Then all regular season game still mean something. There is always exceptions did the SEC champion really mean something? Bama was getting in regardless.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
As far as how long the process takes, I don't care as long as Blackburn is hired. My only question is if it does take until February to hire him, will Butch still technically be able to make changes to his football staff before February?
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I'm annoyed. This is so Tennessee.
 
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What if there is a mystery candidate like a Barnhart from Ky?

Has UT ties. Let's wait and see how this plays out.

For all we know Blackburn may have asked we wait so he can hire a football coach. How many coaches want to go somewhere with an AD having one foot out the door. Waiting gives him time to focus on his hire and not be concerned with appearance of interviews while conducting a search.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
As far as how long the process takes, I don't care as long as Blackburn is hired. My only question is if it does take until February to hire him, will Butch still technically be able to make changes to his football staff before February?
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Once the new AD is selected, he can begin to review and approve staff changes in coordination with Davenport. I assume this would be the typical process. I don't see the whole process waiting until February.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
16? Wow. You really think a game like Western Michigan vs. Bama would mean something? Just be another blowout. I'm good with 4 team and 8 at the absolute most but 16 would be awful. That would likely put a couple 3 or 4 loss teams in the playoffs. WEAK
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Most years, it would be a blowout. But Boise against Oklahoma as an example. That team could have made a run, and didn't get a chance.
 
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volatil said:
What if there is a mystery candidate like a Barnhart from Ky?

Has UT ties. Let's wait and see how this plays out.

For all we know Blackburn may have asked we wait so he can hire a football coach. How many coaches want to go somewhere with an AD having one foot out the door. Waiting gives him time to focus on his hire and not be concerned with appearance of interviews while conducting a search.
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I thought they hired their guy yesterday
 
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chavisut said:
Teams like Va Tech or Florida don't deserve a playoff berth.
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Would Clemson deserve it at 11-2 without being a conference champ? Virginia Tech would be 10-3 as a conference champ. Even without a mandatory conference champ rule, these games matter, and it gets much more interesting.
 
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