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McGeesPub said:
Agree to disagree then. I'm not sure if you are implying this, but if you are, it is hard for me to put credence in your analysis when you claim that Kelly/Chandler isn't a drop off from Kamara/Kelly. I think Chandler looks great too, but...come on. In all likelihood, RB will not be quite as productive with a true freshman stepping in for a guy with All America caliber skills.
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If Kelly get the Majority of the carries, there will be no dropoff..
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Hindsight 20/20 Strong's success at Louisville is 75% due to yha fact that he had an NFL QB and was in a $#!+ conference.

You just like him because he's not light skinned 😜
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I like Herman more than Strong as a coach bro. And Urban Meyer is the best in college. IMO

I just don't trust Butch to do anything consistently. Lol
 
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It's disappointing to read thru some of this and see people pointing to 9-3 and asking would we take that. Record WITHOUT context

Texas A&M and South Carolina shouldnot have been losses

Period.

Alabama is the only "Loss" that is some what acceptable even tho you still can't convince me they are THAT much better than us even down the personnel we were down.

9-3 with losses to teams who out manned us , I can deal with

There is not a team on our schedule other than Bama with equal talent

That's the reality.
There's something missing with our teams, if it's not talent, then what?

Should Butch be fired as of today, probably not.
If he doesn't make any changes to his staff I will have many worries about next season. MANY!

If he decides to take a lateral move and leave, I wouldn't be writhing around in pain. We'll be fine. We have resources and a lot in the pantry and cupboard to move forward.

I am very concerned that he doesn't know how to handle a team and especially a team with expectations.
It's a lot easier to win 7 games when you're coming off the Dooley years.

It's almost criminal how little Alvin Kamara was used before Hurd went out. Going back to last year, you could see he absolutely changes the game.

Just ask yourself how many great coaches (harbaugh, Shaw, Meyer, Satan , Jimbo, et al...) would have had a talent like that and not maximized their potential . All of those guys would have had Kamara with around 20 plus touches, lining up all over, taking advantage of match ups

Our league is a Line of scrimmage and a match up game, how many times can you say we out matched our opposing coach with situational football (especially on offense)

When the talent is about even, when and where do we create wins for our special players?

I totally rambled on and typed way too much. :hi:
 
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McGeesPub said:
Agree to disagree then. I'm not sure if you are implying this, but if you are, it is hard for me to put credence in your analysis when you claim that Kelly/Chandler isn't a drop off from Kamara/Kelly. I think Chandler looks great too, but...come on. In all likelihood, RB will not be quite as productive with a true freshman stepping in for a guy with All America caliber skills.
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We've played several games without Kamara.
 
#3,613
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I4Jay said:
It's disappointing to read thru some of this and see people pointing to 9-3 and asking would we take that. Record WITHOUT context

Texas A&M and South Carolina shouldnot have been losses

Period.

Alabama is the only "Loss" that is some what acceptable even tho you still can't convince me they are THAT much better than us even down the personnel we were down.

9-3 with losses to teams who out manned us , I can deal with

There is not a team on our schedule other than Bama with equal talent

That's the reality.
There's something missing with our teams, if it's not talent, then what?

Should Butch be fired as of today, probably not.
If he doesn't make any changes to his staff I will have many worries about next season. MANY!

If he decides to take a lateral move and leave, I wouldn't be writhing around in pain. We'll be fine. We have resources and a lot in the pantry and cupboard to move forward.

I am very concerned that he doesn't know how to handle a team and especially a team with expectations.
It's a lot easier to win 7 games when you're coming off the Dooley years.

It's almost criminal how little Alvin Kamara was used before Hurd went out. Going back to last year, you could see he absolutely changes the game.

Just ask yourself how many great coaches (harbaugh, Shaw, Meyer, Satan , Jimbo, et al...) would have had a talent like that and not maximized their potential . All of those guys would have had Kamara with around 20 plus touches, lining up all over, taking advantage of match ups

Our league is a Line of scrimmage and a match up game, how many times can you say we out matched our opposing coach with situational football (especially on offense)

When the talent is about even, when and where do we create wins for our special players?

I totally rambled on and typed way too much. :hi:
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I think this is a good post. I would change the question on if he should be fired to a straight out "No," but you are spot on with taking the record with context.

And I'm completely fine with the TAMU loss considering the injuries.
 
#3,616
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I4Jay said:
It's disappointing to read thru some of this and see people pointing to 9-3 and asking would we take that. Record WITHOUT context

Texas A&M and South Carolina shouldnot have been losses

Period.

Alabama is the only "Loss" that is some what acceptable even tho you still can't convince me they are THAT much better than us even down the personnel we were down.

9-3 with losses to teams who out manned us , I can deal with

There is not a team on our schedule other than Bama with equal talent

That's the reality.
There's something missing with our teams, if it's not talent, then what?

Should Butch be fired as of today, probably not.
If he doesn't make any changes to his staff I will have many worries about next season. MANY!

If he decides to take a lateral move and leave, I wouldn't be writhing around in pain. We'll be fine. We have resources and a lot in the pantry and cupboard to move forward.

I am very concerned that he doesn't know how to handle a team and especially a team with expectations.
It's a lot easier to win 7 games when you're coming off the Dooley years.

It's almost criminal how little Alvin Kamara was used before Hurd went out. Going back to last year, you could see he absolutely changes the game.

Just ask yourself how many great coaches (harbaugh, Shaw, Meyer, Satan , Jimbo, et al...) would have had a talent like that and not maximized their potential . All of those guys would have had Kamara with around 20 plus touches, lining up all over, taking advantage of match ups

Our league is a Line of scrimmage and a match up game, how many times can you say we out matched our opposing coach with situational football (especially on offense)

When the talent is about even, when and where do we create wins for our special players?

I totally rambled on and typed way too much. :hi:
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We'll lose too much with Butch leaving. Smh lol
 
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#3,617
Last two years Butch should have 3 losses. Alabama twice and Arkansas last year. The other losses I place all blame on him (A&M, Oklahoma, Florida, SCAR). 😎😎😎😎😎
 
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It might be misplaced but I'm thinking, even at 8-4, Auburn will be ranked ahead of us after championship week
 
#3,625
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The Breakerboy said:
Last two years Butch should have 3 losses. Alabama twice and Arkansas last year. The other losses I place all blame on him (A&M, Oklahoma, Florida, SCAR). 😎😎😎😎😎
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Coaches didn't put all them balls on the ground vs. A&M. But on the other hand, I feel like that Arky games was on the coaches. I think the gameplan was to make Dobbs a pocket passer to try and play on Arky's weak pass defense that year and I think it cost them.
 
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