2016 Election Thread Part Deux

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carlos86 said:
Sean Hannity and David Duke went all out on their praise of Wikileaks yesterday.
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They admire the soft, eclectic craftsmanship of the Main Intelligence Directorate, much like a connoisseur of art appreciates a long-lost Picasso.
 
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volprof said:
A "No Fly Zone" in Syria is extremely stupid and dangerous, and it could unintentionally bring about such a conflict, but you seriously think she is "advocating" for a Third World War? Meaning, you think she wants to risk her comfortable life and vast fortunes intentionally just to possibly make more through either a preemptive war or one wherein she goads her opponent into a reaction necessitating a war?

If so, you've been reading too much Twitter and watching too much YouTube.
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Yes. Her continuing to push for the removal of the Syrian regime, her desire for a no fly zone, her blaming of Russia for her leaked emails, she is trying hard.

What other reason is there to be in Syria?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Yes. Her continuing to push for the removal of the Syrian regime, her desire for a no fly zone, her blaming of Russia for her leaked emails, she is trying hard.

What other reason is there to be in Syria?
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This thing called genocide.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Yes. Her continuing to push for the removal of the Syrian regime, her desire for a no fly zone, her blaming of Russia for her leaked emails, she is trying hard.

What other reason is there to be in Syria?
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So, to be clear, you think Hillary is doing these things to goad Russia into a world war with the US?

What would be the aim of such a war?
 
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carlos86 said:
This weeks polls.

Average: Clinton+8.7
Atl./PRRI: Clinton+15
ABC: Clinton+12
Mon.: Clinton+12
NBCWSJ: Clinton+10
CBS: Clinton+9
Selzer Clinton+9
Bg Clinton+8
Fox Clinton+7
Q Clinton+7
IBD Trump+2
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Lol... Amazing how you mysteriously found a bunch of polls with Clinton winning by +7 or more, and 3 at +12 or more. Even partisan hacks would roll their eyes at that effort.

Here's an actual look at where things are...

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Georgia: Trump vs. Clinton
 
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Vol8188 said:
A mix of her ego, appeasing her donors in Saudi, and oil pipelines.
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So, a woman who is head of a party that doesn't even support the Keystone Pipeline is willing to go to war with Russia for pipelines?

I think we're taking a very complex historical development - the War on Terrorism and, namely, the Syrian Civil War - and reducing it to overly simplistic narratives. Are pipelines and the Saudis/Gulf States a part of the "true narrative," whatever that is? Yes, but it is not "the" narrative.
 
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volprof said:
So, a woman who is head of a party that doesn't even support the Keystone Pipeline is willing to go to war with Russia for pipelines?

I think we're taking a very complex historical development - the War on Terrorism and, namely, the Syrian Civil War - and reducing it to overly simplistic narratives. Are pipelines and the Saudis/Gulf States a part of the "true narrative," whatever that is? Yes, but it is not "the" narrative.
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For your first statement to be important, you would have to believe her to be a democrat.

And if leaving Syria would mean a defeat of Isis, why doesn't she want to leave?
 
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GAVol said:
Lol... Amazing how you mysteriously found a bunch of polls with Clinton winning by +7 or more, and 3 at +12 or more. Even partisan hacks would roll their eyes at that effort.

Here's an actual look at where things are...

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Georgia: Trump vs. Clinton
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The polls that I posted were National polls not Georgia polls and 2 days ago the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the same poll cited in the RCP average had it Clinton 44 percent to 42. So I didn't just "mysteriously" find a poll.
 
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carlos86 said:
The polls that I posted were National polls not Georgia polls and 2 days ago the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the same poll cited in the RCP average had it Clinton 44 percent to 42. So I didn't just "mysteriously" find a poll.
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You find whatever polls fit your narrative. You have yet to post any poll that actually shows Trump leading at all. But there are more than a few of those out there. However, you choose to ignore them.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Next bunch of Wikileaks is out...

Podesta discussing Hillary's server and emails:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25341

Discussing moving the Democrat primaries away from the expected date in order to have a better shock value. As well as this little pearl:



Discussing ISIS:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25651

Discussing a minority as a "chair" (but unknown which chair) and how others wouldn't be "comfortable" with "people of color" as other choices:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25956

Discussing cutting off the Clinton Foundation foreign money as it might cause problems:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26121

Anyone want to call Valarie Jarrett or Susan Rice?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26155

This next one is interesting as it relates to ISIS and oil coming out of the ME. And how someone within that campaign should talk to the Kurds about an alternate pipeline to carry out said oil and receive a cut of the profits. I'm not sure what a Federal Reserve "DFI" account is. Maybe someone on here knows?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26083

I just find it interesting that someone within Hillary's campaign was in the loop on that kind of financial decision. Especially in light of this:

http://www.dailysabah.com/energy/20...city-of-oil-pipeline-via-turkey-amid-conflict

With the exact numbers of the barrels per day they were talking about. Interesting...

And discussing leaks within the Clinton Foundation:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25357

This one looks a bit shady as Podesta discusses how one only has to have a photo ID and attest to being a citizen in order to vote in certain places. It could be seen as an implication of anyone (illegal or legal) voting so long as they had a photo ID:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/17088

Discussing collusion between big pharma and keeping prices high in the US while lower prices are seen elsewhere:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/24440

Interesting letter from 2008 about the state of DHS.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25797

Figured Ras would love the last one about Obama being in bed with the big banks. Seems a highly placed person at Citigroup was "helping with suggestions" of who Obama should fill Cabinet positions with. Check the attachments for a list of names:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15560

Still no serious "smoking gun" as promised, but supposedly James O'Keefe is making a bombshell drop on Monday. Supposedly that is.
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The main thing I have learned about these emails is that Hillary is not calling the shots and the few times that she did it involved speeches...this is why Huma was angry about the perceived Morocco pay for play. I honestly think Huma or Mills are in control.
 
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VolnJC said:
The main thing I have learned about these emails is that Hillary is not calling the shots and the few times that she did it involved speeches...this is why Huma was angry about the perceived Morocco pay for play. I honestly think Huma or Mills are in control.
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Or they are just saving the best for last.
 
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volprof said:
A "No Fly Zone" in Syria is extremely stupid and dangerous, and it could unintentionally bring about such a conflict, but you seriously think she is "advocating" for a Third World War? Meaning, you think she wants to risk her comfortable life and vast fortunes intentionally just to possibly make more through either a preemptive war or one wherein she goads her opponent into a reaction necessitating a war?

If so, you've been reading too much Twitter and watching too much YouTube.
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No she doesn't want a active shooting war and neither does her partner Putin. They both however want their populace in a state of fear that a shooting war is a possibility, a scared population is easier to control and readily trades rights for safety.
 
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carlos86 said:
The polls that I posted were National polls not Georgia polls and 2 days ago the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the same poll cited in the RCP average had it Clinton 44 percent to 42. So I didn't just "mysteriously" find a poll.
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Whatever it was, it's still comical to pretend a poll showing a 15 point spread is valid.
 
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volprof said:
I, for one, like it when major foreign enemies stay the heck out of our elections.
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If you think it's bad that they can expose a couple of half-assed candidates or potentially manipulate which fool wins the election, just think about neither candidate or supporting cast of fools having a clue about the vulnerability of our internet connected infrastructure - oil/gas/gasoline pipelines, electric grids, air/ground/rail control systems.

All the warning in the world, but we are determined that old fashioned command and control by people couldn't possibly be better than a vulnerable connected infrastructure - whether for just a fun loving group of whiz kids or a preemptive strike.

Funny that we are so advanced that we have to bomb air defenses to strike at a third world country, and somebody a few thousand miles away could just turn off our systems - standby generation only works as long as the fuel lasts. Just a really good thing about having those two oceans and Canada - not sure at all about Mexico, though.
 
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VolnJC said:
The main thing I have learned about these emails is that Hillary is not calling the shots and the few times that she did it involved speeches...this is why Huma was angry about the perceived Morocco pay for play. I honestly think Huma or Mills are in control.
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Naive to think they just act on their own. Hillary directs and is informed of everything they do
 
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