Confused about Kamara

[Vol74]

Reading comprehension is not a strong suit for you is it? The only question I asked was what games have you been watching and you ignored it.

You stated he has barely been on the field for two seasons and I provide stats to prove he has been on the field quite a bit for this team.

And likely not as much as he needs to be.

But it's apparent any defense of Kamara will be taken by you as a shot at Hurd so it's a pointless discussion.

I personally think both Hurd and Kamara have been hamstrung by this offensive line and suspect play calling. There is room for both players on the team and there will be room for both of them in the NFL at running back as well though.

Too bad you can't rise above taking potshots at Kamara to prove your points whatever those may be though.

Have a good one.

Yes, I reread that and caught my error. My apologies. Jalen and Alvin are special talents in their own right.

But back to your point, Alvin was on the field a great deal doing what? Pounding the rock or receiving? Exactly.

And he'll be an exceptional slot receiver in the league.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

This is a good place to say this. I saw more creativity with the run game last year and not that much this year. That's been disappointing to me.

Agreed.

The 2 back formations have been mostly MIA, the pistol look with Hurd lined up directly behind Dobbs we saw against Northwestern etc.

 

[508mikey]

I wonder what they will do in the NFL? Will they say that they dont like going up the middle when talking to NFL teams?

Well up the middle is NFL style, and there are quite a few NFL teams with bad offensive lines also

 

[Vol74]

Did hurd do it against Ohio? I'm confused, you can't talk out of both sides of your mouth.
My point is to not rip Hurd bc it is evident he is struggle bussing this year, but to show you that you can't use opponent argument bc the same can be done for your boy.

I dig you think ahahaha is a cute ending to your retorts. Ahaha

"My boy" is playing next week. Anything else?

 

[SayNoToJorts]

For everyone that has criticized Butch Jones for not releasing injury status - you should know that it benefits players.

Hurd. Kamara. JRM. They don't want specifics released as to create speculation in the NFL draft process. That way they control the information. Not the media. Team doctors speak to team doctors.

As evidenced, go watch JRMs interview this pay week. He was asked about his injury and he said he'd rather not state what it was exactly.

Butch works for his players not the fans. I happen to like that. He knows who will keep him around. It's his team not us.

NFL teams will know absolutely everything about him before spending millions drafting him. Down to the finest detail. He is not hiding injuries from the NFL

 

[QuickSmurf]

Agreed.

The 2 back formations have been mostly MIA, the pistol look with Hurd lined up directly behind Dobbs we saw against Northwestern etc.

And the pulling guards etc. Even the blocking was more creative last year. I've never openly said anything negative about the coaches before. But they went backwards as an offense trying to make Dobbs into something he isn't. I'm sorry guys but that irritates the ish out of me. Offensively we can do so much more *running* the ball.

 

[QuickSmurf]

Well up the middle is NFL style, and there are quite a few NFL teams with bad offensive lines also

Exactly what I was thinking. It doesn't look good for RB's to say such things.

 

[Vol_sanity]

I just want Hurd to dominate these next 5 games, get the record and go represent in the league!!! If Alvin can go, I hope he contributes and also goes and does big things in the league.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

Yes, I reread that and caught my error. My apologies. Jalen and Alvin are special talents in their own right.

But back to your point, Alvin was on the field a great deal doing what? Pounding the rock or receiving? Exactly.

And he'll be an exceptional slot receiver in the league.

No worries. This is just a message board.

Going back to the pounding the rock part of your post.

He has actually been doing both. 3rd on the team in rushing attempts last season and this season behind Hurd and Dobbs.

Again, not defending him or saying he should be starting over Hurd. Just looking at the stats.

Hurd is the best pure RB this team has had since Travis Henry IMO. Although Hurd's top end speed is a lot higher than Henry. He just doesn't get much opportunity to show it off.

Kamara has a very important role on this team though as almost every program from the NFL down to the college level has gone to running back by committee.

The Vols biggest problem is the shaky offensive line and the guys with the head sets organizing the committee.

 

[MustafaRasta]

And the pulling guards etc. Even the blocking was more creative last year. I've never openly said anything negative about the coaches before. But they went backwards as an offense trying to make Dobbs into something he isn't. I'm sorry guys but that irritates the ish out of me. Offensively we can do so much more *running* the ball.

Your point is the problem I have most with the coaching this season. Play calling can be subjective but formation use and blocking scheme is not subjective. I was shocked we didn't see it used (pistol/pulling guards ect) and expanded in the APP St and Ohio games. Not shocked after that ore dumbfounded and disappointed.

 

[QuickSmurf]

Yes, I reread that and caught my error. My apologies. Jalen and Alvin are special talents in their own right.

But back to your point, Alvin was on the field a great deal doing what? Pounding the rock or receiving? Exactly.

And he'll be an exceptional slot receiver in the league.

I've never seen a back as big as Hurd get as low as he does. Hurd has power, toughness, size and is quick. That's really good. Kamara has quick acceleration, agility and power. When we talk about Kamara we are not dissing on Hurd sir. We love them both and feel blessed to have both wearing Tennessee orange.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

And the pulling guards etc. Even the blocking was more creative last year. I've never openly said anything negative about the coaches before. But they went backwards as an offense trying to make Dobbs into something he isn't. I'm sorry guys but that irritates the ish out of me. Offensively we can do so much more *running* the ball.

I don't get it either.

Any offensive metric you look at except Dobbs' passing stats have regressed. And that is due to game flow and having to come from behind so much.

 

[Vol74]

No worries. This is just a message board.

Going back to the pounding the rock part of your post.

He has actually been doing both. 3rd on the team in rushing attempts last season and this season behind Hurd and Dobbs.

Again, not defending him or saying he should be starting over Hurd. Just looking at the stats.

Hurd is the best pure RB this team has had since Travis Henry IMO. Although Hurd's top end speed is a lot higher than Henry. He just doesn't get much opportunity to show it off.

Kamara has a very important role on this team though as almost every program from the NFL down to the college level has gone to running back by committee.

The Vols biggest problem is the shaky offensive line and the guys with the head sets organizing the committee.

Yes, sir. I agree 100%. With the hand we've been dealt, no one would have great success right now.

 

[smokey0625]

"My boy" is playing next week. Anything else?

He's our boy you lonely man. Pretty sure no ut fan wants a game without him. We'd rather have everyone healthy. I just find it odd, you place no blame on your boy. You quickly blame everyone else and disregard facts that don't fit your narrative.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

Yes, sir. I agree 100%. With the hand we've been dealt, no one would have great success right now.

Nope.

The injuries on the o line hurts a lot but they weren't playing consistently well at any point this season prior to the injuries. Should have been able to blow ASU off the ball easily enough and they couldn't do it as an example.

As a result, like Quick Smurf just said, this offense has gone backwards from last season.

 

[Vol_is_Lyfe18]

I can't wait to see Hurd in the NFL. I just have a feeling he's going to explode once he can run downhill again.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Because Alvin was so significant in our 5 wins?

Dont you know? According to VN, Hurd sucks and is a waste of down. If Butch had just fed the majority of the carries to AK, we would be 7-0 with the most explosive rushing attack college football has ever seen.

The amount of disrespect Hurd has been shown by idiots on this message board is beyond full retard.

 

[QuickSmurf]

Your point is the problem I have most with the coaching this season. Play calling can be subjective but formation use and blocking scheme is not subjective. I was shocked we didn't see it used (pistol/pulling guards ect) and expanded in the APP St and Ohio games. Not shocked after that ore dumbfounded and disappointed.

That's what I pay attention to the most. Since offense is my thing. We became very vanilla. Anyways I see so many things we could do that we use to do but dont anymore. That makes me question, to be brutally honest with you, wtf is going on. All the 5 WR sets that I see this year just makes me wonder. Also, ,and idk the reason for this, the blocking is just not like it was last year. I feel we went backwards from last year. I dont understand that because we essentially have the same personal. I miss us running over people. Last year we ran over everyone we played. That power running opens up other things. I will be surprised if there isnt more coaching changes on the offensive side next year. But maybe with this off week they will figure out what is wrong and get more creative and back to what worked the last couple of years.

 

[tennesseeduke]

Agree and we need our guys to get to the league.

YES! CBJ knows exactly what he's doing. This is another recruiting tool he has in his tool box. VN again this is why we don't get paid to do his job!

Go Vols & Coach!

:loco:

Tennesseeduke

 

[QuickSmurf]

I don't get it either.

Any offensive metric you look at except Dobbs' passing stats have regressed. And that is due to game flow and having to come from behind so much.

Yep thay true. Playing from behind essentially every game this year skews the stars. Especially passing stars. We dont even play as fast as we use to. Our tempo has slowed down compared to the last three years. Anyone else notice that?

 

[Vol74]

He's our boy you lonely man. Pretty sure no ut fan wants a game without him. We'd rather have everyone healthy. I just find it odd, you place no blame on your boy. You quickly blame everyone else and disregard facts that don't fit your narrative.

You're serious, right? Jalen has to take 2 steps to the right before he can get a handoff, turn upfield and essentially get his head knocked off as soon as he gets the the LOS. Almost. Every. Damn. Time. If you haven't noticed, it's not smart running a man that size sideways. He's not a scat back nor nimble enough to pull it off (like Alvin). He does have exceptional speed for his size, but that takes a few steps to get going - like anyone else 6'4. Im very well aware of Jalen's strengths and his weaknesses.

Put his big ass 5 yards deep with a lead blocker and let him destroy people. At that point, he's built up speed, and if he does have even the smallest crease, he will bully his way to a first down almost every time. That's what he does and does very very well. Sadly, we don't have a coach that wants to do that.

After what we did exclusively in the Outback bowl last year, you would have thought that they would have at least entertained the idea a little.

 

[508mikey]

Yes, sir. I agree 100%. With the hand we've been dealt, no one would have great success right now.

there has been arguing on the boards about WHO calls the plays CBJ (tells Debord what to call) or DeBord (on his own) which do you say it is ?

 

[CINCYVOL]

"My boy" is playing next week. Anything else?

As long as your boy doesn't go down at first contact and puts some points on the board it'll be all good. If not stfu and take this crap somewhere else.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

You're serious, right? Jalen has to take 2 steps to the right before he can get a handoff, turn upfield and essentially get his head knocked off as soon as he gets the the LOS. Almost. Every. Damn. Time. If you haven't noticed, it's not smart running a man that size sideways. He's not a scat back nor nimble enough to pull it off (like Alvin). He does have exceptional speed for his size, but that takes a few steps to get going - like anyone else 6'4. Im very well aware of Jalen's strengths and his weaknesses.

Put his big ass 5 yards deep with a lead blocker and let him destroy people. At that point, he's built up speed, and if he does have even the smallest crease, he will bully his way to a first down almost every time. That's what he does and does very very well. Sadly, we don't have a coach that wants to do that.

After what we did exclusively in the Outback bowl last year, you would have thought that they would have at least entertained the idea a little.

Excellent post. Could you imagine if we had Kiffin as our OC? With Hurd? That would have been scary.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

As long as your boy doesn't go down at first contact and puts some points on the board it'll be all good. If not stfu and take this crap somewhere else.

So easy isnt it? I mean Hurd gets all of these easy holes to run through and just gets arm tackled all the time right? Jesus.