Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXVIII

[BruinVol]

Also, pretty sure Grier already had his 1st sample come back positive BEFORE the TN game, then the split was sent off after and confirmed. That was why many thought that game should be a forfeit. As far as we know, this is not the case with DOB.

I would bet a lot of $ that O'brien test was already done before A&M and was waiting for a follow up confirmation.

 

[Kristy*]

I would bet a lot of $ that O'brien test was already done before A&M and was waiting for a follow up confirmation.

So we should forfeit our loss?

Stop being a tool.

 

[Mike4Vols]

That's really sad-- he didn't even last the month. Adieu, Mike.

I read the story about him a few days ago. I was very skeptical they would let him suffer for very long.

 

[Atzar]

It's easy...SEC says if game isn't made up, then both get a loss. Something would happen then.

Agree completely. As it stands they'd rather avoid the loss than have an opportunity for a win. Need to remove the reward for skipping the game.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

I would bet a lot of $ that O'brien test was already done before A&M and was waiting for a follow up confirmation.

Welp....you're going back on ignore.

 

[WinginFlorida]

Agree completely. As it stands they'd rather avoid the loss than have an opportunity for a win. Need to remove the reward for skipping the game.

Or, make it similar to soccer. Each team gets 2 points for a conference win. If UT finishes out 6-2, they end the year with 12 points. Florida goes 6-1 and finishes with 12 points. UT wins the East due to their head-to-head win.

 

[LA Vol]

It appears to me that the problem is less with the SEC and more with the UF and LSU ADs themselves. They're both full of posturing BS right now, and honestly it makes sense for them because they both benefit from missing this game.

If LSU wins out, then they go to Atlanta in the likely event that Auburn drops another SEC game somewhere. If Florida wins out, then they go if UT loses once more. For those two schools, the game is just one more chance to get knocked out of the race entirely.

They both stand to gain by putting on a show of "we made every effort, but their guys chickened out" while privately exchanging high fives. I'm not usually one for conspiracies, but it makes too much sense here. And I'm not sure what power the SEC commish actually has in forcing this thing to get done. We'll find out, I guess.

Props to Georgia and SCar for not trying to weasel out of their game.

The SEC doesn't have the power to force either school to reschedule the game on a specific date, so UF and LSU must mutually agree on a date. If that doesn’t happen, the game won't be played. That's exactly how this is playing out. The ADs have said there is no mutually agreeable date.

The SEC does have an obligation to maintain the integrity of the conference and ensure fair play. It would look much better if Sankey came up with a resolution before this gets any uglier. There is likely no bigger Mizzou fan than Sankey this week.

 

[volfanCLT]

Welp....you're going back on ignore.

He just can't help himself

 

[LA Vol]

I read the story about him a few days ago. I was very skeptical they would let him suffer for very long.

I'm glad they didn't. He was a majestic animal.

 

[zhangliao04]

El. Oh. El.

https://twitter.com/haynesworthiii/status/785633661165170688

How do you post a pic of a tweet here using just the url? Or can you not do that?

 

[volssam]

LSU Mike the Tiger passed away.

Now look what you've done, Sankey

 

[BruinVol]

So we should forfeit our loss?

.

Hell no we should not forfiet. Neither should have florida last year

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

check out this excerpt from an article written shortly before our 2014 Alabama game:

Few are expecting a massive upset, but an eighth straight defeat to the fourth-ranked Crimson Tide (6-1, 3-1 SEC) still would be painful, especially with Alabama offensive coordinator Lane Kiffin returning to the Neyland sidelines for the first time since leaving Tennessee in January 2010 after just one season as head coach.

"The game means everything to our football program and our fans because it is the University of Alabama," Tennessee coach Butch Jones said, "not because it is Lane Kiffin."


Jones also admitted he has work to do in order to make the series relevant nationally again. Considering the Vols (3-4, 0-3) were dismantled last week by Ole Miss, quarterback Justin Worley might not play and the strength of the Alabama offensive line, this doesn't seem like Jones' best chance for a signature win.

With each passing week, the Crimson Tide's defensive line is beginning to more closely resemble the Rebels' defensive front, which suffocated Tennessee, sacking Worley seven times and helping to hold the Vols to just a field goal.

But Alabama's offensive line is what enabled the Crimson Tide to run all over Texas A&M 59-0 in what Jones called one of the more impressive wins he has seen in some time. Alabama has so many offensive options — two big backs in T.J. Yeldon and Derrick Henry to go along with Amari Cooper, one of the nation's top receivers, and quarterback Blake Sims — that it's hard to fathom Tennessee's defense being able to neutralize all of them.

As for Worley's status, Jones said Thursday that if he isn't able to play, he'll go with a combination of Nathan Peterman and Josh Dobbs. Dobbs hasn't played this season and seemed likely to redshirt before Worley got hurt. Peterman has been unimpressive in his limited playing time this season and last.

Man we've come a long way. Hats off to everyone involved with the program these last three years.

 

[tonybologna]

And this is another reason why it's idiotic to make a thread for kids who don't have any offers or very few non-legit offers, on top of not signing for another 3.5 years. A waste of space!

Please stop this crap! You do this all the time.

Freak gave him permission via email. Stop counting your cookies before they hatch. Thanks!

That's not exactly true. He said as long as we've either offered a recruit or it being an in-state recruit is ok. I can't just create any & all recruits. Let me get this clear.

defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive, defensive...

offensive,offensive,offensive,offensive,offensive,offensive, offensive, offensive, offensive, offensive, offensive, offensive, offensive. You say I'm defensive but you're always being offensive towards my posts chris.

Don't set back & act like you're all goody goody & don't try to start an argument because you most certainly do. :wink: I only get offensive when people like you make aggressive posts back towards me. It's as simple as that buddy & you know it too.

I try to get along with you but it seems it's impossible most of the time because of your offensive posting back at me. You do it to others as well. I've seen it before. I'm not claiming to be perfect but can't we get along buddy?

You have an aggressive personality to try & prove people wrong or something. I try to get along with everybody on here but that's impossible with all the different types of personalities. Some of you'll just love to nitpick & get me & others riled up. It's silly if you ask me.

Especially about a recruit's thread. Somebody has something to say no matter who I create. If I created a player like Barry Sanders who would be a 5* recruit no doubt somebody would have something negative to post back towards me.

It gets really old. It can make me defensive at times yes. That's not my intentions though. If you'll would stop this silly & childish stuff you would see a totally different reaction in my posts towards others even though I try to get along with everyone. Thanks!

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

It appears to me that the problem is less with the SEC and more with the UF and LSU ADs themselves. They're both full of posturing BS right now, and honestly it makes sense for them because they both benefit from missing this game.

If LSU wins out, then they go to Atlanta in the likely event that Auburn drops another SEC game somewhere. If Florida wins out, then they go if UT loses once more. For those two schools, the game is just one more chance to get knocked out of the race entirely.

They both stand to gain by putting on a show of "we made every effort, but their guys chickened out" while privately exchanging high fives. I'm not usually one for conspiracies, but it makes too much sense here. And I'm not sure what power the SEC commish actually has in forcing this thing to get done. We'll find out, I guess.



Props to Georgia and SCar for not trying to weasel out of their game.

If Bama wins out and loses to LSU they will be 7-1 and if LSU wins out they would be 6-1. Bama would go based on win %.

Only Florida and Bama win in current scenario.

 

[LaagerVol]

I realize that Roper is a Cutcliffe disciple, but, honestly, what has he ever done anywhere to deserve being an OC in the SEC, even at USC. I thought that he was horrible at Florida and have still seen nothing to change my mind.

To me it's similar to hiring a saban DC. You know Cutcliffe is running the show on offense just like saban is on D, so there is no possible way to know what you are getting when you hire one of their assistants.

 

[Glitch]

Lol.

Just making sure people feel it when they are hypocrites.��

Instead of laying a blanket statement out there and trying to put everyone under it, why don't you find the specific posts from the specific posters and ask them the specific question. It's easy to be self-righteous casting that wide net knowing that there are couple of fish that will be caught in it. It is quite a bit more time consuming to cast a single line into a lake to catch a handful of specific fish out of a gigantic school. All the posters that didn't call for UF to forfeit should not be subjected to your shotgun blast of hypocrisy policing. JMO though.

 

[BruinVol]

Instead of laying a blanket statement out there and trying to put everyone under it, why don't you find the specific posts from the specific posters and ask them the specific question. It's easy to be self-righteous casting that wide net knowing that there are couple of fish that will be caught in it. It is quite a bit more time consuming to cast a single line into a lake to catch a handful of specific fish out of a gigantic school. All the posters that didn't call for UF to forfeit should not be subjected to your shotgun blast of hypocrisy policing. JMO though.

Just having some fun with it. I know all posters didn't think that way but it was a number of posters.

Doesn't matter now and both situations are sad and I shouldn't be malign lite of either really

 

[Lovesomebigorange]

Is changing the rules to division record being considered as a solution then? It had better be. Or let the other teams magically erase one of their losses to put everyone back on even playing field. What a joke this is.

 

[LaagerVol]

So we should forfeit our loss?

Stop being a tool.

It's hard to stop being a tool when you're a TOOL. He is what he is and he always will be. That's why I and many others have him on ignore. I wish everyone did lol

 

[Atzar]

If Bama wins out and loses to LSU they will be 7-1 and if LSU wins out they would be 6-1. Bama would go based on win %.

Only Florida and Bama win in current scenario.

Yay for failing at basic math! You're absolutely correct.

So yeah, back to just hating Florida.

 

[chavisut]

Tony, I think you put a little to much stock in the "interest" label.

 

[jave36]

Is changing the rules to division record being considered as a solution then? It had better be. Or let the other teams magically erase one of their losses to put everyone back on even playing field. What a joke this is.

No and it shouldn't be considered imo. If they just tallied conference wins it would fix everything. Skipping a game could only hurt you in that scenario.

 

[RikidyBones]

I would be 100% okay if they canceled the game and said that only divisional games will count in the road to ATL this year.

Make it the new way. Cross division games aren't representative imo.

 

[chavisut]

Make it the new way. Cross division games aren't representative imo.

Really seems like best way to go about it.