Fox News played commercial over the speech by the Muslim man whose son was killed

[DC_Vol]

Trump's Response To Parents Of Killed Muslim Soldier: "Hillary Voted For The Iraq War, Not Me!" | Zero Hedge

So many people getting worked up over what Trump MIGHT do. The same people have selectively forgotten what Hillary HAS done.

 

[volfanhill]

It's more manufactured outrage from LG and his leftist cronies. As has been pointed out, there was none of he same outrage when The tables were turned.

This is not a Trump thing. The same type of attack is used every four years on GOP candidates. It was against Sarah Palin in 2008, Romney in 2012, and now Trump in 2016. It's so tired but it is effective. The media carries most of the weight, and now we understand how they are all getting the same talking points.

The hypocrisy exists no doubt. However, the GOP, screwed itself yet again. We nominated someone with a lack of understanding greater then Palin. If our nominee were Romney or Kasich this round we win by 5 in the popular and close to a hundred in the electoral. We are running against the second worst canidate ever. The problem is we nominated the worst.

 

[DC_Vol]

The hypocrisy exists no doubt. However, the GOP, screwed itself yet again. We nominated someone with a lack of understanding greater then Palin. If our nominee were Romney or Kasich this round we win by 5 in the popular and close to a hundred in the electoral. We are running against the second worst canidate ever. The problem is we nominated the worst.

Personally I love what Trump has done to he GOP!! I think it's great.

But the same job was done on Palin and Romney. I'm not ready to pretend it wouldn't have also happened with any of the other candidates. It would have. The reasons would be different but trust me, it would be just as severe. Most of the people wringing their hands now would be doing the same thing.

 

[FLVOL69]

Trump's Response To Parents Of Killed Muslim Soldier: "Hillary Voted For The Iraq War, Not Me!" | Zero Hedge

Dude has ties to the Muslim brotherhood

 

[T-TownVol]

Dude has ties to the Muslim brotherhood

and our POTUS.....

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Dude has ties to the Muslim brotherhood

Khizr Khan? Link?

 

[volfanhill]

Not a good target for trump, but the outrage over this is a great example of liberal kabuki theatre. Pure hypocrisy. Let's talk about the real issue - Trump and many others see an issue with radical Islam and those of the left don't. They want to keep bringing em in

On this we agree

 

[volfanhill]

Personally I love what Trump has done to he GOP!! I think it's great.

But the same job was done on Palin and Romney. I'm not ready to pretend it wouldn't have also happened with any of the other candidates. It would have. The reasons would be different but trust me, it would be just as severe. Most of the people wringing their hands now would be doing the same thing.

The defeat will be far worse. Palin is viewed as a laughing stock by over 60% of the country. The same will be true of trump. That's not true of Romney. I understand why the base went crazy. The GOP has lied time and time again to us regarding fiscal issues.

 

[DC_Vol]

The defeat will be far worse. Palin is viewed as a laughing stock by over 60% of the country. The same will be true of trump. That's not true of Romney. I understand why the base went crazy. The GOP has lied time and time again to us regarding fiscal issues.

I don't agree with you about the level of defeat. But one way or another, I hope the trump candidacy breaks the GOP.

 

[volfanhill]

I don't agree with you about the level of defeat. But one way or another, I hope the trump candidacy breaks the GOP.

Obviously speculation by both of us but I think it will be an ass whooping.

 

[DC_Vol]

Obviously speculation by both of us but I think it will be an ass whooping.

It's going to be an interesting four months

Get your opcorn: ready

 

[Orangedogsrule]

Ah, so double downing on your erroneous and sophomoric name calling of an entire State without any facts? My son will be better off without you in the school system of this state, I can assure you. Stay out of it.

You talkin bout floridia? Aimt nuthin in there cept aligators eatin people, trailer park fires, crosseyed inbred schoolmarms, and a big hole in the ground called The Devil's Millhopper near there state school where demons escape from Hell!

 

[FLVOL69]

Khizr Khan? Link?

Shoebat.com

 

[malinoisvol]

Mr. Khan was calling out Trump for his "ban Muslims" remarks in Dec 2015. DJT clarified his remarks, calling it a temporary ban until a process for vetting them could be put into place.

Mr. Khan's son, a Muslim, died fighting for this country in 2004. He was trying to make a point in saying Muslims can be as patriotic as any other American. I agree with his point.

However, I agree with DJT's point, they need to be stopped from coming into this country until they can be vetted properly.

We are at war with the people of that region and until they dawn a uniform that identifies which side their on, all must be treated as POTENTIAL enemies of the U.S. It is simple self-preservation, IMO.

Didn't Jimmy Carter put a temporary ban on certain Muslim factions during the Iranian hostage crisis? Did anyone call him out on this ban during the 1980 DNC?

It, a temporary ban on imigration, made sense then and now.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

Frikin flatlanders in Fla.

High point in Fla. they outta be shamed.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Mr. Khan was calling out Trump for his "ban Muslims" remarks in Dec 2015. DJT clarified his remarks, calling it a temporary ban until a process for vetting them could be put into place.

Mr. Khan's son, a Muslim, died fighting for this country in 2004. He was trying to make a point in saying Muslims can be as patriotic as any other American. I agree with his point.

However, I agree with DJT's point, they need to be stopped from coming into this country until they can be vetted properly.

We are at war with the people of that region and until they dawn a uniform that identifies which side their on, all must be treated as POTENTIAL enemies of the U.S. It is simple self-preservation, IMO.

Didn't Jimmy Carter put a temporary ban on certain Muslim factions during the Iranian hostage crisis? Did anyone call him out on this ban during the 1980 DNC?

It, a temporary ban on imigration, made sense then and now.

Nobody on the left gets it. Proof they are morons.

 

[BeecherVol]

Trump's degeneracy has driven some pretty reasonable people into the arms of Hillary Clinton, the most callous, inhuman person to run for POTUS in decades. It is truly amazing.

And he just won't shut up about the Khans. The "law and order" candidate who supposedly cares about veterans has now openly mocked the parents of a fallen soldier in addition to making fun of prisoners of war. He even has a great point about Clinton being complicit in the decision to go to war in the first place, but his complete lack of empathy and tact overshadows it.

I think its getting to a point where Trump and Clinton are driving people to stay home.

 

[golfballs]

I don't agree with you about the level of defeat. But one way or another, I hope the trump candidacy breaks the GOP.

Yes. The American people are sick of the establishment bull****. That's why trump was nominated, and it's why Sanders had the support he did - if it weren't rigged he may have won.

Since it was rigged, Dems have Hillary - the epitome of establishment, corrupt, insider politics. No thanks. Both parties need to be broken up

 

[UTCVol]

The defeat will be far worse. Palin is viewed as a laughing stock by over 60% of the country. The same will be true of trump. That's not true of Romney. I understand why the base went crazy. The GOP has lied time and time again to us regarding fiscal issues.

Romney was just completely detached from the lives of the average American. He is reasonable and a good man, but he reeked of elitism. Not very many are going to get excited about a guy like that, especially after the 47% comments made it clear. Obama was also an incumbent and frankly much more likable than Clinton.

I'm struggling to think of similar avenues of attack for candidates like Rubio, Cruz or Kasich. The liberal outrage machine would be in full effect, but would anyone really care in light of Clinton's transgressions? Right now, Trump is by far the best driver of undecided votes for the Democrats. The DNC wasn't hailed as a success because of their pathetic attempts to humanize Clinton - it was a success because A-list speaker after A-list speaker offered stinging repudiations of Trump. It's theater, but early indications are that it appears to have worked.

And DC is right - the establishment has no one to blame but themselves for the rise of the human Cheeto. However, it's also clear that not very many are concerned about fiscal issues, because Trump's platform exacerbates those problems rather than fixes them.

 

[DC_Vol]

Romney was just completely detached from the lives of the average American. He is reasonable and a good man, but he reeked of elitism. Not very many are going to get excited about a guy like that, especially after the 47% comments made it clear. Obama was also an incumbent and frankly much more likable than Clinton.

I'm struggling to think of similar avenues of attack for candidates like Rubio, Cruz or Kasich. The liberal outrage machine would be in full effect, but would anyone really care in light of Clinton's transgressions? Right now, Trump is by far the best driver of undecided votes for the Democrats. The DNC wasn't hailed as a success because of their pathetic attempts to humanize Clinton - it was a success because A-list speaker after A-list speaker offered stinging repudiations of Trump. It's theater, but early indications are that it appears to have worked.

And DC is right - the establishment has no one to blame but themselves for the rise of the human Cheeto. However, it's also clear that not very many are concerned about fiscal issues, because Trump's platform exacerbates those problems rather than fixes them.

RE Romney: newsflash, Trump and Clinton are both detached from the lives of average Americans. It's just not the chosen angle to take on Trump. Thy have better material.

And I guarantee you that there wouldn't have been an issue finding an angle to - even manufacture one (like with Romney) - to go after any of the GOP candidates.

i won't go into the tactics that are used in this post, but the tactics are always the same. The avenue is where the difference is.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Romney was just completely detached from the lives of the average American. He is reasonable and a good man, but he reeked of elitism. Not very many are going to get excited about a guy like that, especially after the 47% comments made it clear. Obama was also an incumbent and frankly much more likable than Clinton.

I'm struggling to think of similar avenues of attack for candidates like Rubio, Cruz or Kasich. The liberal outrage machine would be in full effect, but would anyone really care in light of Clinton's transgressions? Right now, Trump is by far the best driver of undecided votes for the Democrats. The DNC wasn't hailed as a success because of their pathetic attempts to humanize Clinton - it was a success because A-list speaker after A-list speaker offered stinging repudiations of Trump. It's theater, but early indications are that it appears to have worked.

And DC is right - the establishment has no one to blame but themselves for the rise of the human Cheeto. However, it's also clear that not very many are concerned about fiscal issues, because Trump's platform exacerbates those problems rather than fixes them.

The human Cheeto? First time I've heard that one.

 

[UTCVol]

RE Romney: newsflash, Trump and Clinton are both detached from the lives of average Americans. It's just not the chosen angle to take on Trump. Thy have better material.

And I guarantee you that there wouldn't have been an issue finding an angle to - even manufacture one (like with Romney) - to go after any of the GOP candidates.

i won't go into the tactics that are used in this post, but the tactics are always the same. The avenue is where the difference is.

I agree - the liberal media will always push their fear-mongering narratives regardless of who the GOP candidate is. But when someone acts like Trump does and double down on absurdity it makes it a lot easier for those charges to stick in the eyes of voters who are truly on the fence, and for those who may have been apathetic about the election to suddenly become interested again. And when criticized, a candidate should be able to take it with class and offer a cogent counter-argument. That's just not Trump's style - sometimes his demeanor works, sometimes it doesn't (like with the Khan issue). Either way, you have to admit Trump makes it very easy for the media to portray him in this way.

Trump is also an elitist, of course, but his whole campaign is based on the idea of a silent majority of average Americans who are fed up with illegal immigration, trade deals, terrorism, and politics as usual. He has tried to harness their anger. Hillary has been criticized for her elitism by both Republicans and Sanders supporters, and I'd argue that those attacks have worked very well.

 

[DC_Vol]

I agree - the liberal media will always push their fear-mongering narratives regardless of who the GOP candidate is. But when someone acts like Trump does and double down on absurdity it makes it a lot easier for those charges to stick in the eyes of voters who are truly on the fence, and for those who may have been apathetic about the election to suddenly become interested again. And when criticized, a candidate should be able to take it with class and offer a cogent counter-argument. That's just not Trump's style - sometimes his demeanor works, sometimes it doesn't (like with the Khan issue). Either way, you have to admit Trump makes it very easy for the media to portray him in this way.

Trump is also an elitist, of course, but his whole campaign is based on the idea of a silent majority of average Americans who are fed up with illegal immigration, trade deals, terrorism, and politics as usual. He has tried to harness their anger. Hillary has been criticized for her elitism by both Republicans and Sanders supporters, and I'd argue that those attacks have worked very well.

I personally don't view trump as an elitist. I don't think he carries himself that way or comes off as such. Of course that's just my opinion.

Trump does strike me as someone who lacks class, is overly sensitive, and always has to have the last word. He needs to learn when to not comment and get out of the way while Hillary is self inflicting damage.

And I don't think there is any question that trump makes it easy for the media and his opponents. It's not even arguable. However insert any other name and they would also be a racist, mysogynist, hater, etc right now too.

 

[volprof]

The hypocrisy exists no doubt. However, the GOP, screwed itself yet again. We nominated someone with a lack of understanding greater then Palin. If our nominee were Romney or Kasich this round we win by 5 in the popular and close to a hundred in the electoral. We are running against the second worst canidate ever. The problem is we nominated the worst.

I was a Kasich supporter from the start. Like, September last year. Kasich would kick Clinton's behind like no one's business. Unfortunately, he was "too low energy," as Small Hands would put it. He admittedly lacked the verve necessary to win the zealots of the primaries over. Couple that with the fact that the speed and rapidity of communication has made it just the perfect time for a demagogue like Trump to take power (we're a purely emotional society now, rather than a rational one), and Kasich's "low energy" never stood a chance.

The funny thing is (and "funny" as in "we all lose" kind of funny) that Trump and Clinton are the only two losers that could possibly lose to one another.

My gut, and it is esteemed, tells me that Trump wins. I really do. I think he wins. One good thing about that is that I may regain my faith in God, because I'm going to need it. There will never have been a more unqualified president in our nation's history. The man is simply mentally unfit to do the job, I don't care what his business record may or may not be. The corporate world is not the public service world. The two do not go hand-in-hand, and success in one does not make one unquestionably qualified for success in the other.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I was a Kasich supporter from the start. Like, September last year. Kasich would kick Clinton's behind like no one's business. Unfortunately, he was "too low energy," as Small Hands would put it. He admittedly lacked the verve necessary to win the zealots of the primaries over. Couple that with the fact that the speed and rapidity of communication has made it just the perfect time for a demagogue like Trump to take power (we're a purely emotional society now, rather than a rational one), and Kasich's "low energy" never stood a chance.

The funny thing is (and "funny" as in "we all lose" kind of funny) that Trump and Clinton are the only two losers that could possibly lose to one another.

My gut, and it is esteemed, tells me that Trump wins. I really do. I think he wins. One good thing about that is that I may regain my faith in God, because I'm going to need it. There will never have been a more unqualified president in our nation's history. The man is simply mentally unfit to do the job, I don't care what his business record may or may not be. The corporate world is not the public service world. The two do not go hand-in-hand, and success in one does not make one unquestionably qualified for success in the other.

Never been a more unqualified president? lol:lol:lol: