'15 TX ATH Ryan Newsome

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BruinVol said:
You suggesting Bama is on the same level as Texas?


Also Kamara went to juco in between.
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I'm suggesting sometimes situations don't work out for players. It's not always about talent.

Bama would be lucky to still have Kamara in the fold. But instead, he's a captain wearing orange.
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
I guess we should't have taken Kamara either since he couldn't "cut it" at Alabama.
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If you think the kid is starter material, it's a no brainer. If he's just midrange depth, or a body, I say pass and save the spot for a HS kid with more time to play. In this case, I'm honestly not sure. He's talented, but so are our WRs on campus. Adding Williams, and Byrd as slot guys last year and Jones thus far this year, it depends on where Newsome fits in that group. Is there a better HS slot guy out there that makes more sense long term?
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
I'm suggesting sometimes situations don't work out for players. It's not always about talent.

Bama would be lucky to still have Kamara in the fold. But instead, he's a captain wearing orange.
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Agreed. Sometimes it just isn't a good fit and in this case it might very well just be a bad offensive style


However more times than not it turns out kids just aren't productive winning football players especially when they leave programs that aren't winning
 
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BruinVol said:
Agreed. Sometimes it just isn't a good fit and in this case it might very well just be a bad offensive style


However more times than not it turns out kids just aren't productive winning football players especially when they leave programs that aren't winning
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Yeah that could certainly be the case. But I would love to get a guy like this with speed and stash him for next year. If Butch wants him I'm all for it.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
If you think the kid is starter material, it's a no brainer. If he's just midrange depth, or a body, I say pass and save the spot for a HS kid with more time to play. In this case, I'm honestly not sure. He's talented, but so are our WRs on campus. Adding Williams, and Byrd as slot guys last year and Jones thus far this year, it depends on where Newsome fits in that group. Is there a better HS slot guy out there that makes more sense long term?
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Yeah I think we basically took Latrell Williams to fill that slot spot. But we also thought Vincent Perry would be able to be that guy this year. He could replace him maybe? Who knows.
 
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drvenner said:
Even if the school releases him, he still has to sit a year, unless he can file a hardship transfer to be closer to home or a family member, or if he has graduated. If a school does not release him, he cannot even be on scholarship anywhere that year he is sitting out. If they do release him, he has to sit, but he can be on scholarship.
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There is a NCAA loophole... If he still plays for a UT, he can play immediately :)
 
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BruinVol said:
Also Kamara went to juco in between.
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Not sure why that matters really. All JUCO did for Kamara was put miles on the tires and expose him to potential injury. If you think a kid has talent and can play, then you take him regardless of what his stats were as a FR at another school. Texas passing game was awful; certainly worse than ours. Tennessee would have taken Kamara, JUCO or not, and if they believe Newsome can play (and I'll assume they do since they were pushing for his signature just 17 months ago), they'll do the same with him.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Not sure why that matters really. All JUCO did for Kamara was put miles on the tires and expose him to potential injury. If you think a kid has talent and can play, then you take him regardless of what his stats were as a FR at another school. Texas passing game was awful; certainly worse than ours. Tennessee would have taken Kamara, JUCO or not, and if they believe Newsome can play (and I'll assume they do since they were pushing for his signature just 17 months ago), they'll do the same with him.
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A lot of kids go to JUCO so they can transfer anywhere afterwards. The likelihood of Alabama releasing Kamara to transfer to Tennessee was slim to none. It's not all about would we take him or not.

Kamara also redshirted his freshman year at Bama, so if he had transferred to another D1 school he would have just blown a year of eligibility sitting out. Despite injury risks, most kids don't like sitting on the sideline when they could be playing.
 
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People act like we have proven depth at WR right now and that taking this guy is just taking an empty body. WR is one of our biggest question marks. We all hope that P. Willy turns out to be the stud we believe he can be, but other than that it's a giant question mark.

Josh Smith is a solid returning senior who will play a big role this year, but he will be gone soon. Malone has a lot of talent to be a star and has a lot of room to grow, but he has dropped some huge passes. Then, we have a plethora of Freshmen that could play huge roles but it's impossible to say whether they will become studs or just a warm body. I don't mean this in a negative way, I just believe that our WR corp is such an unknown entity that you take depth and talent wherever you can get it.

Newsome has a lot of interest from great schools. I don't think talent was the reason for transfer like some suggest. Some situations just aren't good for a guy. It's a pity he would have to sit out a year though. He could help us right away.
 
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VersaceButch said:
People act like we have proven depth at WR right now and that taking this guy is just taking an empty body. WR is one of our biggest question marks. We all hope that P. Willy turns out to be the stud we believe he can be, but other than that it's a giant question mark.

Josh Smith is a solid returning senior who will play a big role this year, but he will be gone soon. Malone has a lot of talent to be a star and has a lot of room to grow, but he has dropped some huge passes. Then, we have a plethora of Freshmen that could play huge roles but it's impossible to say whether they will become studs or just a warm body. I don't mean this in a negative way, I just believe that our WR corp is such an unknown entity that you take depth and talent wherever you can get it.

Newsome has a lot of interest from great schools. I don't think talent was the reason for transfer like some suggest. Some situations just aren't good for a guy. It's a pity he would have to sit out a year though. He could help us right away.
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I think it's reasonable to say he's likely a take if he wants to be a Vol. PW and JM don't really factor in at all as Newsome is a slot guy. I look at it like this, we lost Perry(for at least a year), and Henderson didn't qualify. We had Nixon and Jones committed, then lost Nixon. Either the staff wanted 2 slot guys in the 2017 class or would have dropped one of them. I lean toward they wanted both. So it's safe to say a spot for a good slot WR is there for the taking. Now is that Newsome or is there a better HS option out there? I'd probably go with Newsome at this point.
 
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Callahan on UT's interest in Newsome "Not a ton, based on what I've heard so far. If he could play this year, it might be a different story. But Tennessee basically has to weigh him against Class of 2017 wide receivers since he would have to count toward a signing class and he won't be eligible to play until next year."
 
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Tennessee - “Tennessee is on me hard; they’re all on me there. Coach Butch (Jones), he’s just a great guy. I officially visited Tennessee but my parents never went up there. Now, they said they’ll go see it. But Darren Kirkland and Khalil (McKenzie) are on me hard; they all want me there. The Tennessee fans are going crazy.
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Texas transfer talking to SEC, Big Ten, Pac-12 schools
 
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bignewt said:
Too bad he isn't from Tennessee then you would be all in on him too.
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Nah. Once a kid has went through the process and sought out the attention, I'd rather they take a bit more business like approach the second time around. They made a bad choice once. Don't make another one. If he's looking at the same schools this time around minus TX, talk to family, weigh the options and make a decision. Don't bring the fans/Twitter and BS into it.
 
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