Foster to the Fins

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Volunteer_Kirby said:
So much animosity in this thread. Personally not mad at Arian for what he said. The timing was crap and his reasoning behind it was questionable at best. He spoke the truth about college athletes being exploited for $ and them taking benefits is no secret either. Good look at Miami, Foster!
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College athletes are not exploited. That is a BS argument that has spoiled and entitled written all over it.
 
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I wanna like him, but I just can't. My deal is he didn't get in the shape he was in here by not having enough to eat. Maybe one time in four years he missed a meal due to circumstances being anomalous, and that was the only time he cared to remember. Putting that out there was just flippant, thoughtless and careless.

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Maybe on the infamous taco day he fumbled his regularly scheduled meal down the hill and into the river?:rolleyes:
 
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fade route said:
College athletes are not exploited. That is a BS argument that has spoiled and entitled written all over it.
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NCAA rakes in a billion dollars a year from revenue.

P5 is essentially a semi-pro league and the risk for injuries is much higher than at the previous level (high school, DII, DIII, etc). Not to mention the potential for brain injuries is much higher as well. Athletes should get compensated a bit more, that's all. It's not crazy. Arian, on the other hand, was crazy for bringing it up when he did.
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
NCAA rakes in a billion dollars a year from revenue.

P5 is essentially a semi-pro league and the risk for injuries is much higher than at the previous level (high school, DII, DIII, etc). Not to mention the potential for brain injuries is much higher as well. Athletes should get compensated a bit more, that's all. It's not crazy. Arian, on the other hand, was crazy for bringing it up when he did.
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If it is a semi-pro league then they need to splinter off from the colleges and live the lives of minor league baseball. That way they can live on a minimal salary, ride the bus, and live in cheap hotel rooms on the road. These college athletes live in a pampered environment where Foster gained a sense of entitlement. The Title IX lawsuit showed that these kids have resources other students do not have. We have enabled attitudes like Foster's.
 
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onevol74 said:
If it is a semi-pro league then they need to splinter off from the colleges and live the lives of minor league baseball. That way they can live on a minimal salary, ride the bus, and live in cheap hotel rooms on the road. These college athletes live in a pampered environment where Foster gained a sense of entitlement. The Title IX lawsuit showed that these kids have resources other students do not have. We have enabled attitudes like Foster's.
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They also have a lot less time and energy than a normal student has. Try running at 6AM until you are completely drained. Then going to class. Then doing a 3 hour lift, and now go do your homework and study for a test. And that's the off-season. In season there's even less time to focus on school. It's far from a pampered life.
 
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Quick question for all the VOL historians- does Arian Foster have the record for most TD's rushing and receiving combined of any VOL to ever play in the NFL????
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
NCAA rakes in a billion dollars a year from revenue.

P5 is essentially a semi-pro league and the risk for injuries is much higher than at the previous level (high school, DII, DIII, etc). Not to mention the potential for brain injuries is much higher as well. Athletes should get compensated a bit more, that's all. It's not crazy. Arian, on the other hand, was crazy for bringing it up when he did.
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The players know exactly what they are signing up for and are free to walk away at any time. I don't care if the NCAA is taking in a trillion, the kids are getting a free education, trained by world class coaches and trainers, eating better than anyone else walking around campus, have a platform of exposure to the NFL, and are treated like rock stars. If they get injured and their football careers are ruined, then it's their responsibility to take advantage of the free education so that they are not financially ruined as well. The athletes ought to be paid argument is so bogus and exhausting and has so many flaws of logic to it, it's just getting old.
 
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Lizzard28 said:
They also have a lot less time and energy than a normal student has. Try running at 6AM until you are completely drained. Then going to class. Then doing a 3 hour lift, and now go do your homework and study for a test. And that's the off-season. In season there's even less time to focus on school. It's far from a pampered life.
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It's a pampered life that any one of us would give our left one to have a chance at, don't kid yourself.
 
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Lizzard28 said:
They also have a lot less time and energy than a normal student has. Try running at 6AM until you are completely drained. Then going to class. Then doing a 3 hour lift, and now go do your homework and study for a test. And that's the off-season. In season there's even less time to focus on school. It's far from a pampered life.
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Without college football how would Arian be earning a living?
 
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They are a pampered bunch that is being exploited for my amusement. They are underpaid, but make more than most. All to play football, who wouldn't want that as their work study? My job is a breeze compared to their daily routine. Dobbs said he was the "hardest working man in America", I'm in no position to object. JH and Kongbo, are out to prove him wrong. JD playing mind games with these youngsters, they don't have a chance. JD is a good leader. JRM is my favorite. Cam and AK they are so fun to watch and just seem so happy about it all, such a great balance of talent and leadership, #120 is better because these young men are the Captains.

Lay off The Fumbler, he is a VFL like it of not.

That's the only thing I have against him is all the fumbles, we are Vol fans, we're not petty.

See you in Tampa.
 
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fade route said:
The players know exactly what they are signing up for and are free to walk away at any time. I don't care if the NCAA is taking in a trillion, the kids are getting a free education, trained by world class coaches and trainers, eating better than anyone else walking around campus, have a platform of exposure to the NFL, and are treated like rock stars. If they get injured and their football careers are ruined, then it's their responsibility to take advantage of the free education so that they are not financially ruined as well. The athletes ought to be paid argument is so bogus and exhausting and has so many flaws of logic to it, it's just getting old.
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And yet underpaid.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Without college football how would Arian be earning a living?
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Who gives an ish? How about like everybody else who worked for and earned their degree after going thousands of dollars into debt.......without all the perks and benefits that being a D1 athlete inherently provides.

And, iirc, Arian said he got around $50k in under the table benefits.....wonder when the last time an accounting or engineering or liberal arts major had boosters shoveling stacks of cash at them as Arian claims happened to him?

To be absolutely clear, I'm not for one second begrudging a major d1 athlete, his 4year scholly and all the benefits and exposure that comes with it. It's a symbiotic relationship that works beautifully IMO.....you agree to come here and work your tail off, promote our university and its athletic program, help us wins games and bring in revenues, and we'll provide you with a free education, tutoring services, access to trainers, physical therapists, nutritionists, networking with major companies/boosters, etc, etc. More power to him/her and God bless them for all the hard work they put in.

Who I am begrudging are all the people coming out of the woodwork with their Marxist language decrying that these kids are being taken advantage of or worse. So many kids use their GOD given abilities to play at a major D1 university so that they can try and use and, dare I say, exploit the system that gives them so much to get to the professional level of their sport so that they can enjoy the type of riches that 99% of the rest of the world can only dream of. Some get there, many more don't......but what they leave with is a free education and great networking opportunities not afforded to so many other students/peers.

Nick Senzel, outstanding 3B/SS from Tennessee just got taken second overall in the MLB draft.....and got a $6.2mm bonus for. I'm not sure what Nick's major was, but I'm guessing he wasn't getting a 6.2mm anything with that piece of paper like he just got from having been an outstanding member of UTs baseball program.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
And yet underpaid.
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One writer at Forbes estimated that an athlete at a major D1 university essentially is paid $125k annually after all the education costs, services, perks and benefits are accounted for. You think that's underpaid for an 18-22 year old who's also getting great exposure to potential employers in the area/region?.....that is if he's not an NFL, MLB or NBA draft pick where potentially millions of dollars await him?
 
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Obligatory, Cool Story Bro, warning.

I would see Foster riding the T almost everyday when I was in Knoxville. Funny thing is, he would ride it from the torch bearer to the stop across from old Gibbs next to the engineering building. For those of you that are not familiar with the campus setup, those two stops are literally like 100yards apart. One of the laziest things I've ever seen.


On the bright side, I would also see Candice Parker a lot while riding the T. So that was nice.
 
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fade route said:
It's a pampered life that any one of us would give our left one to have a chance at, don't kid yourself.
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There's no sense in saying that unless you've actually put the work in. It's easy to make blanket statements from the outside, but the physical work they put most people can't handle
 
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The Artful Dodger said:
Obligatory, Cool Story Bro, warning.

I would see Foster riding the T almost everyday when I was in Knoxville. Funny thing is, he would ride it from the torch bearer to the stop across from old Gibbs next to the engineering building. For those of you that are not familiar with the campus setup, those two stops are literally like 100yards apart. One of the laziest things I've ever seen.


On the bright side, I would also see Candice Parker a lot while riding the T. So that was nice.
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I saw KMac, while riding the T, a bunch this year. That was awesome. Saw Dobbs while on my way to AMB.
 
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The Artful Dodger said:
Obligatory, Cool Story Bro, warning.

I would see Foster riding the T almost everyday when I was in Knoxville. Funny thing is, he would ride it from the torch bearer to the stop across from old Gibbs next to the engineering building. For those of you that are not familiar with the campus setup, those two stops are literally like 100yards apart. One of the laziest things I've ever seen.


On the bright side, I would also see Candice Parker a lot while riding the T. So that was nice.
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Candace? Me likely 😳😊😁
 
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Lizzard28 said:
There's no sense in saying that unless you've actually put the work in. It's easy to make blanket statements from the outside, but the physical work they put most people can't handle
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Agree that as a 45 year old man, I cannot handle their schedule or the physical demands of being a student athlete.............and that is the reason they did not offer me a free education and everything else I listed in my original post to play football.
 
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KBVol said:
Who gives an ish? How about like everybody else who worked for and earned their degree after going thousands of dollars into debt.......without all the perks and benefits that being a D1 athlete inherently provides.

And, iirc, Arian said he got around $50k in under the table benefits.....wonder when the last time an accounting or engineering or liberal arts major had boosters shoveling stacks of cash at them as Arian claims happened to him?

To be absolutely clear, I'm not for one second begrudging a major d1 athlete, his 4year scholly and all the benefits and exposure that comes with it. It's a symbiotic relationship that works beautifully IMO.....you agree to come here and work your tail off, promote our university and its athletic program, help us wins games and bring in revenues, and we'll provide you with a free education, tutoring services, access to trainers, physical therapists, nutritionists, networking with major companies/boosters, etc, etc. More power to him/her and God bless them for all the hard work they put in.

Who I am begrudging are all the people coming out of the woodwork with their Marxist language decrying that these kids are being taken advantage of or worse. So many kids use their GOD given abilities to play at a major D1 university so that they can try and use and, dare I say, exploit the system that gives them so much to get to the professional level of their sport so that they can enjoy the type of riches that 99% of the rest of the world can only dream of. Some get there, many more don't......but what they leave with is a free education and great networking opportunities not afforded to so many other students/peers.

Nick Senzel, outstanding 3B/SS from Tennessee just got taken second overall in the MLB draft.....and got a $6.2mm bonus for. I'm not sure what Nick's major was, but I'm guessing he wasn't getting a 6.2mm anything with that piece of paper like he just got from having been an outstanding member of UTs baseball program.
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AMEN!!!!
These kids get their notoriety from these college programs to make big bucks in the pros. Then they turn around and bad mouth the system that allows them to profit. It is completely hypocritical to sign up for a athletic scholarship, reap the benefits, and then proclaim that system is unfair. If it is unfair they should stop using that system and try living like the rest of us.
 
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KBVol said:
One writer at Forbes estimated that an athlete at a major D1 university essentially is paid $125k annually after all the education costs, services, perks and benefits are accounted for. You think that's underpaid for an 18-22 year old who's also getting great exposure to potential employers in the area/region?.....that is if he's not an NFL, MLB or NBA draft pick where potentially millions of dollars await him?
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Yes. &125,000 X 85= Chump change. They should have room service, so they don't get hungry. Upon graduation the student/athlete gets $25,000 a year. Graduate go buy a house and a nice car, get a job. Enjoy life.
 
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