Officer shot outside Mich courthouse

[theFallGuy]

also someone should tell them a "manifesto" is what crazy serial killers create like the Unabomber

 

[n_huffhines]

Hundreds were chanting those saying about killing cops. I could not care less what it says, I watch what they do and listen to what they say. They have no moral ground when they never have anything to say about black on black crime or liberal policies that keep them on the government payroll

You and middle America are not interested in compromise and that's why it's gotten to this point.

 

[volfanjustin]

You and middle America are not interested in compromise and that's why it's gotten to this point.

don't let yourself be fooled into thinking BLM wants compromise

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

don't let yourself be fooled into thinking BLM wants compromise

Nope. They have no interest in compromise. They will continue until they feel like they've won something, and then probably ask for handouts for the inconvenience of protesting.

 

[catchnburn]

I hate to break it to you but in reality no individuals life matters in the grand scheme of things. Mine, yours or anybody's really matter, we could die tomorrow and the world will keep turning and outside of some family and close friends not a sole will care in 6 months tops.

 

[RikidyBones]

Again, maybe that is the case, maybe it isn't. But Bob obviously feels that the situation isn't equal. What good does it do to say "well everybody deserves food"?

Who is right or wrong is immaterial IMO. Both sides should empathize with the other side and find the common ground. Have you even tried to see where the other side is coming from, or are you just content to say they are wrong, case closed?

I know it took me awhile to respond but work has to be done to pay the bills.

Unfortunately for BLM it isn't as simple as Bob not eating. We have several issues here. Other people aren't eating either. It's not just Bob.

One problem is that they aren't asking how many people aren't eating and being upset about that. Instead they are paying attention to how many Bobs don't eat.

Second problem is that we are assuming Bob's never get fed here when the numbers show that Michael's get fed the least. We are also assuming that the restaurant has a problem not feeding people when, in reality, less than a percent of all patrons aren't getting fed. The restaurant isn't avoiding to feed people like Bob would have you believe.

Another problem is that they aren't asking why Bob isn't eating but rather assuming him not eating is an injustice. Maybe Bob didn't order. Maybe Bob has dine and dashed before. Maybe Bob was rude to the staff. We don't know.

What we do know is that Bob isn't alone and it's not just Bob's appetite matters when Jim wasn't fed, when Sandy wasn't fed, etc.

The point is that it's not an open shut case.

 

[n_huffhines]

don't let yourself be fooled into thinking BLM wants compromise

Says the guy who refuses to read their manifesto. You are not interested in compromise. You speak for yourself, not the millions on the other side of the debate.

 

[volfanjustin]

Says the guy who refuses to read their manifesto. You are not interested in compromise. You speak for yourself, not the millions on the other side of the debate.

You just continue to not listen to what they say or what they do, it will be easier for you to not face the facts. My compromise would be for a white cop to never pull a black person over, ever no mater what they were doing. Pull all cops out of predominately black neighborhoods, let them do whatever they want as long as they keep that activities in their own neighborhood.

 

[Pacer92]

Says the guy who refuses to read their manifesto. You are not interested in compromise. You speak for yourself, not the millions on the other side of the debate.

The manifesto is crap because it puts ALL the responsibility of change on law enforcement and zero on the people...

That's not a compromise...

 

[n_huffhines]

You just continue to not listen to what they say or what they do, it will be easier for you to not face the facts. My compromise would be for a white cop to never pull a black person over, ever no mater what they were doing. Pull all cops out of predominately black neighborhoods, let them do whatever they want as long as they keep that activities in their own neighborhood.

Again, SAYS THE GUY WHO WON'T READ THEIR MANIFESTO.

This isn't really your solution, is it? Never pull over a black man?

 

[n_huffhines]

The manifesto is crap because it puts ALL the responsibility of change on law enforcement and zero on the people...

That's not a compromise...

Uhhhh, did you read it? Several of the points are asking for the community to have more of a say, AKA "responsibility".

Either way, the BLM people are not government, and this is about government reform. It's like saying the founding fathers' demands were crap because they were putting everything on the British.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Only a handful of people are doing harm to cops. You can't dismiss an entire movement because of a few bad eggs. Look at any group and you'll find some fringe *******s.

Only a handful of cops are doing harm to black folks, no?

 

[BeecherVol]

So that's the way you see it? Everybody is being treated exactly the same, but the minority wants preferential treatment?

I'm not arguing btw, just curious. No right answer here. It's interesting to me how people are viewing this differently.

Interesting is a good way to describe it. The differences are not really a surprise.

 

[BEATBAMA12]

They're a terrorist org. Change the name from BLM to All Lives Matter, rid itself of psychotic members who wage war on US citizens. And quit chanting hate against US citizens.
Yes Cops are US citizens, just like everyone else.
Make the Movement about violence reduction period,

Have more drug abuse programs funded by drug dealers seized cash, legalize marijuana,seriously only thing your going to kill when high is a box of Little Debbies.

Narcotics are already banned so how about we force the judicial system to enforce actual laws currently in place, along with gun crime, if you fail a background check you get investigated! I had a hold on a background check for a purchasing a rifle (ruger 10/22) I was contacted by TBI and FBI and they apologized that someone with the same exact name was wanted for murder in Pennsylvania , they had to double check but I was ok with that and since then I haven't had any issues.

Common sense goes a long way.

 

[Pacer92]

Uhhhh, did you read it? Several of the points are asking for the community to have more of a say, AKA "responsibility".

Either way, the BLM people are not government, and this is about government reform. It's like saying the founding fathers' demands were crap because they were putting everything on the British.

These are demands. Since when did having a say equate responsibility?

This is about compromise you said....what is the black community willing to do to meet in the middle? Demand they have a say?

 

[n_huffhines]

Only a handful of cops are doing harm to black folks, no?

Well, their demands seem to be less about individual actions and more about the way the system works.

 

[n_huffhines]

These are demands. Since when did having a say equate responsibility?

This is about compromise you said....what is the black community willing to do to meet in the middle? Demand they have a say?

Well, they made 10 demands....if the government meets 8 of them and the protests stop, that would be compromise, no?

 

[volfanjustin]

Well, they made 10 demands....if the government meets 8 of them and the protests stop, that would be compromise, no?

So now we are supposed to let violence and disruption of roads and interstates change/make policy? Would you be this willing to change for the KKK if they were the ones protesting, or is it just your white guilt getting the best of you?

 

[n_huffhines]

So now we are supposed to let violence and disruption of roads and interstates change/make policy? Would you be this willing to change for the KKK if they were the ones protesting, or is it just your white guilt getting the best of you?

It's based on the merits of the policy change. That's why you don't make all 10 changes. You make 8, or however many that make sense.

JFC

 

[allvol123]

It appears they want to live unto themselves. Have it, ever ridden thru one of those places though?? They can't cut their grass or keep the yards clean. But they can police themselves.

 

[volfanhill]

#5, someone needs to tell them Memphis police department is already like 75% black. I guess we need to change it to having no white officers at all.

You are wrong

Racial disparities between police and the population leave black people underrepresented

 

[n_huffhines]

It appears they want to live unto themselves. Have it, ever ridden thru one of those places though?? They can't cut their grass or keep the yards clean. But they can police themselves.

They are not saying they can police themselves (according to the manifesto). They are asking for the manner of policing to change.

Focus on violent offenders and property crimes. Who cares if somebody is brownbagging liquor? They are over-policed.

 

[lawgator1]

I guess it's too long to say, but they ought to change BLM to "All lives matter, but it seems as thought black males are at greater risk, on the whole, during otherwise routine interactions with the police."

Would be more accurate.

 

[FLVOL69]

I guess it's too long to say, but they ought to change BLM to "All lives matter, but it seems as thought black males are at greater risk, on the whole, during otherwise routine interactions with the police."

Would be more accurate.

The Harvard study just released by a black professor refutes those claims, try again.

 

[allvol123]

They are not saying they can police themselves (according to the manifesto). They are asking for the manner of policing to change.

Focus on violent offenders and property crimes. Who cares if somebody is brownbagging liquor? They are over-policed.

I get they want policing to.change, which can be understandable.

I am failing.to see the changes they themselves believe to made with their own behavior.