50 dead, 40+ wounded in nightclub attack in Florida

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lawgator1 said:
That's great rhetoric, but fact is there is finally the political will in place to do something to curb ease of access to guns. Enough with the false claims of slippery slope, or mischaracterizing people's motives.

Time to get something done that is meaningful in the real world.
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Great. Morons are motivated and given a platform by the sensationalist media to have the lying politicians do something meaningful about guns.
 
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BearCat204 said:
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lawgator1 said:
That's great rhetoric, but fact is there is finally the political will in place to do something to curb ease of access to guns. Enough with the false claims of slippery slope, or mischaracterizing people's motives.

Time to get something done that is meaningful in the real world.
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Sweet. Why settle for depriving people of their Second Amendment rights when you can deprive them of the Fifth as well?
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's great rhetoric, but fact is there is finally the political will in place to do something to curb ease of access to guns. Enough with the false claims of slippery slope, or mischaracterizing people's motives.

Time to get something done that is meaningful in the real world.
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Four times as many people have died in Chicago this year. What will no fly restrictions do about that? These type of shootings are a sideshow to a much greater problem that additional legislation will not stop. There will be 10k homicides in this country this year and .5% of them are going to lead to more laws? This is on par with the transgender bathroom issue.
 
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It's pretty obvious that these events are used to divide us instead of uniting the American people...

Use some logic people...
 
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The FBI Director is getting fired. Its appears the FBI had over 7 chances to get this guy and they never acted on it. One gun store owner alerted the FBI to 'suspicious' customer weeks before Orlando shooting.

Robert Abell, a co-owner of Lotus Gunworks in Jensen Beach, Florida, told ABC News today that a man entered the store five or six weeks ago and asked specific questions about high-end body armor. When employees said the store didn't carry the body armor he wanted, Abell said, the man made a phone call in a foreign language, hung up and then asked about ammunition in bulk.
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Abell added that they thought the man was "very suspicious," so they called the local FBI office in West Palm Beach and reported the incident. But they didn't have the man's name, since no sale was made, and the only surveillance footage they had was grainy.

"We gave them information and everything that took place, and that was the end of the conversation," he said.

There was a follow-up conversation with agents, Abell said, but the FBI never visited the store or investigated further.
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lawgator1 said:
That's great rhetoric, but fact is there is finally the political will in place to do something to curb ease of access to guns. Enough with the false claims of slippery slope, or mischaracterizing people's motives.

Time to get something done that is meaningful in the real world.
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Indeed, all the people I have known that have died from the use of an automatic weapon will be relieved the government is stepping up. That said, that number is zero.

Such a huge issue.
 
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volinbham said:
According to this source if you are on the larger watchlist the FBI is alerted if you purchase a weapon.

It also confirms Mateen was not on the larger watchlist.

Why isn't this sufficient? If you are a suspect and you buy a gun the FBI can ramp up scrutiny, likely get surveillance warrants, etc.

FBI gets to maintain the stealth and innocent person isn't deprived of enumerated right.

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That sounds like a pretty good system without the need for more restrictions and/or laws.
 
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allvol123 said:
Indeed, all the people I have known that have died from the use of an automatic weapon will be relieved the government is stepping up. That said, that number is zero.

Such a huge issue.
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Well maybe it's a good thing full auto weapons are highly regulated then...you don't know anyone that's been a victim of them.
 
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RobsPics said:
Well maybe it's a good thing full auto weapons are highly regulated then...you don't know anyone that's been a victim of them.
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It would not matter if they gave them away like candy. People generally don't have the urge to kill others.

If you take away the number of people killed by guns that are involved in related criminal activity, the number of deaths is extremely small. Hell, it's small if you include those people.
 
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lawgator1 said:
How long a delay?

Saw last night that the NRA wants to limit it to the three days already in place. Which is bullcrap because there would be no way to have a hearing within three days to show why on the no fly list and deal with that issue. That is, effectively, no delay at all.

Now, if you want the delay to be until that listing issue gets cleared up?

THAT would be reasonable. But of course that is not what the NRA would allow their minions in Congress to vote for.
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So we should treat everyone like a terrorist? Is that what you're saying here?
 
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carlos86 said:
The FBI Director is getting fired. Its appears the FBI had over 7 chances to get this guy and they never acted on it. One gun store owner alerted the FBI to 'suspicious' customer weeks before Orlando shooting.
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I figured you were gonna say he called Trump or that Trump gave him the money to buy the weapons .....Mateen that is..... While he was in the gun store
 
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joevol33 said:
I've seen people blame this on trump.
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All of this is someone else's fault. He was driven to do this by GOP rhetoric. The gun climbed out of the rifle rack and got into his car when he wasn't looking. Then it brainwashed him to drive to the club and start shooting. I'm sure he was panicked because he wasn't making any of these choices himself, it was basically the gun and Donald Trump doing all the work. None of this is the shooter's fault. Obviously we need more laws.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
All of this is someone else's fault. He was driven to do this by GOP rhetoric. The gun climbed out of the rifle rack and got into his car when he wasn't looking. Then it brainwashed him to drive to the club and start shooting. I'm sure he was panicked because he wasn't making any of these choices himself, it was basically the gun and Donald Trump doing all the work. None of this is the shooter's fault. Obviously we need more laws.
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And let's not forget white Christian men played a big part also!
 
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