O.J. Owens suing NCAA, SEC for handling of head injuries.

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Also the severity of these impacts from football has only been highlighted in the last few years, well after this guy's career. The fact that the NFL tried to hide these consequences doesn't do them or the NCAA any favors. Tack on that NCAA players don't get paid while generating millions of dollars for their university and the NCAA, and putting their future at risk, these lawsuits aren't necessarily frivilous.
 
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508mikey said:
“As a result (of playing at Tennessee), Plaintiff now suffers from depression, anxiety, sleeping disorders and headaches, among other issues,” according to the lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court in the Southern District of Indiana. Oh Really and that describes millions that never played football to begin with
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To be fair, being a UT fan this past decade has given many the same symptoms.
 
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crusse10 said:
I don't understand how so many people show no sympathy for head injuries sustained by players who played before the head injury was treated as the overwhelming danger that it is
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I feel very little sympathy for these folks because it was their choice to play. More importantly, common sense should tell you that slamming your head against the ground or another person thousands of times is more than likely going to cause some damage. It doesn't take a neurologist to figure that out.
 
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It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that continuous blows to the head isnt a good thing. I should be able to sue UT for all the pain and suffering theyve put me through the past 10 years. Yes , it was my choice, but I knew it was going to hurt and I continued to support them anyway so now I should be able to sue them??.....on second thought, I kinda like it. Anybody know a good lawyer?
 
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TennesseeTopHat said:
Also the severity of these impacts from football has only been highlighted in the last few years, well after this guy's career. The fact that the NFL tried to hide these consequences doesn't do them or the NCAA any favors. Tack on that NCAA players don't get paid while generating millions of dollars for their university and the NCAA, and putting their future at risk, these lawsuits aren't necessarily frivilous.
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So getting a multi-thousand dollar education for free isn't a form of payment? And let's not act like each player that goes through a program "generates millions of dollars for their university and the NCAA". Your post is little misconstrued.
 
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Biopsyman said:
Cancel football
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You better believe there are a whole lotta leftists that would love to see it, are angling and advocating for it. Too competitive....too much testosterone.....too much money involved....too much exploitation....too much "American".
 
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Guy always reminded me of a cross between Terrell Owens and OJ Simpson. But, that's not good enough to see the field at UT. :)
 
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KBVol said:
You better believe there are a whole lotta leftists that would love to see it, are angling and advocating for it. Too competitive....too much testosterone.....too much money involved....too much exploitation....too much "American".
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This is the main issue. That and most of them have a sour taste in their mouths for not being included in an attention grabbing sport in their formative years.
 
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game stats are one thing but practice is another.

much more time is spent on the practice field, and a large percentage of injuries come from the practice field because that is where most of the time is spent.

if you go all out every play, injuries will unfortunately occur.

a hard hit to the head will do the same damage in practice that it does in a game.

so, forget about his game stats.

and he might have a very legitimate claim!
 
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crusse10 said:
If, at the time, the severity of concussions was starting to be understood, but the school didn't instill precautions and the SEC and NCAA governing bodies didn't mandate stricter tests, then I agree that he and many others in the same situations should be able to receive recompense if they are suffering.

I have mercy on human beings who unknowingly turned their brains into Swiss cheese for the enjoyment of hundreds of millions of people, including myself. For decades, the mind wasn't the issue. Everyone worried about how the body would be later. When those guys kept going and ran their bodies into the ground, they did so with the assumption that their grit and determination that brought them thus far would be what they leaned on when their body struggled to function going forward. No amount of grit and determination can fight CTE.

Ironically the one thing that these players used to keep fighting is now harming them the most.
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I doubt very seriously they played football for you or any other nameless, faceless person. Football has been played for over a century. There has been ample evidence how people who play too long suffer consequences later in life. But it comes to personal choice. People don't need other people to make decisions for them. It's not your responsibility or anyone else's other than the person being affected and his family. All this hands across america bs about a new term called 'cte' is a classic example of people rallying around something none of us completely understand and expect wholesale changes. I wouldn't be surprised if this initiative was driven by America's current think tank to take another pleasure away from the people by convincing their legions of mindless lemmings that they need to protect us from ourselves. That's not freedom bud. If you want to cry and feel sympathy about something go to Walter Reed Medical Center or go visit cancer patients. NFL players made a lot of money playing a kids game and some of them stayed too long. As for the NCAA and below, there are no studies linking CTE to these leagues. More insincere bs from people that are clueless on the topic.
 
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sbm362 said:
I feel very little sympathy for these folks because it was their choice to play. More importantly, common sense should tell you that slamming your head against the ground or another person thousands of times is more than likely going to cause some damage. It doesn't take a neurologist to figure that out.
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But if team doctors are telling you it's fine and you can go back in then you believe them. The issue isn't about it being dangerous it's about withholding the truth to make more money off these players
 
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utvolpj said:
But if team doctors are telling you it's fine and you can go back in then you believe them. The issue isn't about it being dangerous it's about withholding the truth to make more money off these players
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What protocol would his team doctors have been circumventing?
 
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utvolpj said:
But if team doctors are telling you it's fine and you can go back in then you believe them. The issue isn't about it being dangerous it's about withholding the truth to make more money off these players
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If you are experiencing concussion-like symptoms and go back on the field then you are a moron and that's on you. No one held a gun to his head and said, "O.J. you are going back out there or I'm splattering your brains across the Power T."
 
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sbm362 said:
If you are experiencing concussion-like symptoms and go back on the field then you are a moron and that's on you. No one held a gun to his head and said, "O.J. you are going back out there or I'm splattering your brains across the Power T."
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Which is knowledge that's come about in the last few years. Head injuries were not treated the same way 20 years ago.
 
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utvolpj said:
But if team doctors are telling you it's fine and you can go back in then you believe them. The issue isn't about it being dangerous it's about withholding the truth to make more money off these players
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This everyday and twice on Sunday.
 
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utvolpj said:
How they're handled on the sidelines has absolutely changed. So has the attitude toward them
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Indeed and thank goodness.

Ultimately it's up to the individual to be accountable for their own health. If he was having symptoms then he should have taken himself out of practice/games and sought the opinion of an independent doctor. If he didn't take these steps to address the problems then I think O.J. was as negligent as anyone.
 
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sbm362 said:
Indeed and thank goodness.

Ultimately it's up to the individual to be accountable for their own health. If he was having symptoms then he should have taken himself out of practice/games and sought the opinion of an independent doctor. If he didn't take these steps to address the problems then I think O.J. was as negligent as anyone.
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The point is many of these guys were advised by doctors. Acting like an 18yo who was never given the information should be making those decisions is a bit ridiculous. You're basing what he "should have done" on current info and data that was not available at the time
 
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FEARinSEC said:
So getting a multi-thousand dollar education for free isn't a form of payment? And let's not act like each player that goes through a program "generates millions of dollars for their university and the NCAA". Your post is little misconstrued.
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No, it's not a direct from of payment. My company offers 100% tuition reimbursement for graduate degrees, do you think I'd still work there if I didn't draw a salary? Would you work somewhere where your product brought in revenue but your only form of payment was free education? What are other industries where adults aren't able to profit directly from their services?
 
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