HBO's "Game of Thrones"

#3,954
#3,954
Man if that's Horn Hill what do Highgarden and Oldtown look like? I thought it was a good episode. Unfortunately a lot of the things the characters are doing don't make much sense.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Why do you think that?
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He was last seen in Riverlands. They mentioned the "dead" in the preview right as they showed his footsteps. They also made mention of trial by combat and Cersei will be using the Mountain. They built up the Hound's hatred of his brother too much to not follow through with it. Plus the pants and the shoes look like what he was left in.

I am incredibly confident it's the Hound.
 
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#3,957
LotteryPick said:
He was last seen in Riverlands. They mentioned the "dead" in the preview right as they showed his footsteps. They also made mention of trial by combat and Cersei will be using the Mountain. They built up the Hound's hatred of his brother too much to not follow through with it. Plus the pants and the shoes look like what he was left in.

I am incredibly confident it's the Hound.
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Gotcha. No offense but I thought you had something a bit more.... concrete... than that.

I'm not saying you're incorrect, but that looks nothing like the hounds pants/shoes
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Gotcha. No offense but I thought you had something a bit more.... concrete... than that.

I'm not saying you're incorrect, but that looks nothing like the hounds pants/shoes
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Or the fact that he was spotted in the same hotel as the cast while they were filming this season. I don't make mention of stuff like that because it takes the fun out of figuring it out. They've been alluding to his return all season though.

And those look just like his pants and shoes. Not sure how you don't see that.

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#3,959
#3,959
**** is going to go down. Enjoyed Aryas and Sam's parts quite a bit.
 
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#3,961
#3,961
Is anyone else annoyed at Dany's infallibility? I mean the whole reason she got stuck in the Dothraki Sea and subsequently captured was because she couldn't control Drogon the first time she flew on him. Now, after no practice, she can perfectly control him. I don't buy it.
 
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LotteryPick said:
Or the fact that he was spotted in the same hotel as the cast while they were filming this season. I don't make mention of stuff like that because it takes the fun out of figuring it out. They've been alluding to his return all season though.

And those look just like his pants and shoes. Not sure how you don't see that.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqSHUXccnYg

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The Hound wears boots. Those weren't boots. Same color pants, but that's all. Again, it may very well be him, but the way you said it lead me to believe it was more than a guess
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
The Hound wears boots. Those weren't boots. Same color pants, but that's all. Again, it may very well be him, but the way you said it lead me to believe it was more than a guess
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Those are boots, my friend.

There's plenty more material out there to back up his return that I don't really feel like digging up. Given the way it was presented, I don't see why it would be anyone else.
 
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oUTlaw said:
Is anyone else annoyed at Dany's infallibility? I mean the whole reason she got stuck in the Dothraki Sea and subsequently captured was because she couldn't control Drogon the first time she flew on him. Now, after no practice, she can perfectly control him. I don't buy it.
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Maye it has something to do with confidence. She killed all the Khals and gained another army. Her confidence is at an all time high.
 
#3,972
#3,972
I enjoyed the episode. It seemed a little slow for this season(which has been dynamic), but was still a great episode, imo. We got a bunch of little reveals that needed to be made. We saw the Mad King for the first time, Benjen returned, Drogon returned, Arya chose a new path and retrieved Needle, Sam retrieved a blade of Valerian steel, and Lady Stark's brother was brought out of the dungeon as a bargaining chip. Jaime is headed north to face the Blackfish, and the High Sparrow outmaneuvered the King's Council. The rest of this season is set up to be just as dynamic as the first half, perhaps even more.
 
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TheDeeble said:
How could Bran, who wasn't born, affect teenage Wylis 20-30 years in the past so that when Bran is born, Wylis is already Hodor because of Bran and the events north of the wall? Unless we're witnessing the 2nd or 3rd or time this has happened.

This isn't like Back to the Future time travel. There was a clear history that happened and all the characters had lived their lives. Marty went back to the past and changed events and we see the differences in current day. Game of Thrones is different. It seems to be suggesting that Wylis never had a normal life. That he's always been Hodor and messed up in the head since he was a teenager because of Bran.....who was still years from being born.
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You're thinking time travel is how it works in most movies or tv shows, where you can have alternate timelines and dimensions coinciding with one another, it's an old trope that allows for storytelling and nothing more. The truth is, if time travel were possible it would be nothing like that at all as the very fabric of reality would not hold together, as time itself coincides with gravity and dimensional space, at least to our understanding.

Bran being able to effect the past before he was even born hints that the GoT universe doesn't have a paradoxically possible form of time travel, unless the paradox is shown to be Bran constantly living his own life over and over in order to insure the livability of this world as the three eye'd raven becoming himself (which is actually hinted at by the raven saying "You must become me" so many times.)

Instead, what we've been shown seems to hint that the universe has a series of events (often times called Shatter points in storytelling) that MUST happen for the universe to maintain it's balance and keep moving forward. One of these happens to be Hodor. It's heavily implying that the Mad King is another, and that the Tower of Joy is another.

If this is true then the universe basically has a check list of things that must happen for the world to continue, thus implying that there is no free will in the universe because those events must happen, or they never would have happened to begin with. And that implication then leads to believe that there is no free will in the Game of Thrones universe and we are simply watching everyone act out the whims of the universe so that it might maintain it's own balance and continue to it's own inevitable conclusion.
 
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Daloth said:
You're thinking time travel is how it works in most movies or tv shows, where you can have alternate timelines and dimensions coinciding with one another, it's an old trope that allows for storytelling and nothing more. The truth is, if time travel were possible it would be nothing like that at all as the very fabric of reality would not hold together, as time itself coincides with gravity and dimensional space, at least to our understanding.

Bran being able to effect the past before he was even born hints that the GoT universe doesn't have a paradoxically possible form of time travel, unless the paradox is shown to be Bran constantly living his own life over and over in order to insure the livability of this world as the three eye'd raven becoming himself (which is actually hinted at by the raven saying "You must become me" so many times.)

Instead, what we've been shown seems to hint that the universe has a series of events (often times called Shatter points in storytelling) that MUST happen for the universe to maintain it's balance and keep moving forward. One of these happens to be Hodor. It's heavily implying that the Mad King is another, and that the Tower of Joy is another.

If this is true then the universe basically has a check list of things that must happen for the world to continue, thus implying that there is no free will in the universe because those events must happen, or they never would have happened to begin with. And that implication then leads to believe that there is no free will in the Game of Thrones universe and we are simply watching everyone act out the whims of the universe so that it might maintain it's own balance and continue to it's own inevitable conclusion.
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But we're not talking about physical time travel, we're talking about psychic time travel. Not to mention I think you're looking way too far into this. It's fantasy. It's going to break some rules of reality.
 
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LotteryPick said:
Those are boots, my friend.

There's plenty more material out there to back up his return that I don't really feel like digging up. Given the way it was presented, I don't see why it would be anyone else.
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These may be boots:



But they aren't these boots:




Again you're probably right, and I hope you are, but I don't think anything is extremely telling that he'll be back next week. He'll be back this season I think for sure.
 
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