Top 10: Bold Predictions For 2016 Newcomers

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#53
k-town_king said:
He has never said he plans to redshirt, only that he is open to it if best for the team. He has consistently said he expects to compete, but will redshirt if needed.
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.....which is all that we've said. Why are we debating the same side?
 
#54
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KBVol said:
.....which is all that we've said. Why are we debating the same side?
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Some, not necessarily you, have been saying JG said he will redshirt when any competition or playing time is discussed. I was just clarifying that isn't correct.
 
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Remy said:
This!! Granted Dormady is a solid skilled player but his talent level is what it is. He played for his father in high school for crying out loud. If you don't think his father promoted his strengths and did what he could do to hide his limitations then you are ignoring why he was ranked as he was coming out of high school. Dormady were he asked to run the offense last year or this one IMO has been coached not to make the big mistake and I can live with that. But from all indications Sheiron is more talented and brings something closer to Dobbs on the field than does Dormady. But is Dormady the long term future at QB for the Vols? No IMO there are 2 kids in SJ and JG that are better suited for this offense than he is.
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Don't all coaches want to play to a QB's strength and not their limitations? I don't think that is exclusive to fathers.
 
#56
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k-town_king said:
Some, not necessarily you, have been saying JG said he will redshirt when any competition or playing time is discussed. I was just clarifying that isn't correct.
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For the record, I hope JG comes in and is so good, so athletic, so accurate, so dynamic that they have no choice but to elevate him to second team ahead of QD and Jones with the idea of getting him on the field in relief of Josh where possible, to get him as much game experience as possible, with the firm idea that he's our QB in 2017. I'm just pointing out that while I'm sure he'll come into fall camp with the idea of competing and letting the chips fall where they may, that he has previously said that he's open to red shirting in 2017. Really nothing more.
 
#57
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k-town_king said:
Some, not necessarily you, have been saying JG said he will redshirt when any competition or playing time is discussed. I was just clarifying that isn't correct.
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You freak out at any idea of him COMPETING...because you've already decided the outcome. Which makes your consternation confusing.Torrance...err Guarantano is the guaranteed starter after Dobbs...right? :)
 
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butchna said:
You freak out at any idea of him COMPETING...because you've already decided the outcome. Which makes your consternation confusing.Torrance...err Guarantano is the guaranteed starter after Dobbs...right? :)
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You were more wrong about Gibson than I was for one. He was recruited and signed by OSU as a qb before moving positions. Just like we did with J Jennings. He is not at Appy State like you claimed he would be. Plus JG is a qb. TG was an athlete with good potential to develop into a god qb.

I guess you were right about Riley Ferguson vs Dobbs huh? I know they will compete. I just think JG will win it. He is more talented and a better fit. I said the same thing about Dobbs vs RF. I was right about that. I was one of the few who could see the talent and knew he would be our qb.

JG is the most talented qb we have recruited since Peyton. That is the consensus opinion of anyone who covers hs football. I think he is our qb after Dobbs based on talent, skill, and rankings. OF course there is no guarantee.
 
#59
#59
k-town_king said:
You were more wrong about Gibson than I was for one. He was recruited and signed by OSU as a qb before moving positions. Just like we did with J Jennings. He is not at Appy State like you claimed he would be. Plus JG is a qb. TG was an athlete with good potential to develop into a god qb.

I guess you were right about Riley Ferguson vs Dobbs huh? I know they will compete. I just think JG will win it. He is more talented and a better fit. I said the same thing about Dobbs vs RF. I was right about that. I was one of the few who could see the talent and knew he would be our qb.

JG is the most talented qb we have recruited since Peyton. That is the consensus opinion of anyone who covers hs football. I think he is our qb after Dobbs based on talent, skill, and rankings. OF course there is no guarantee.
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Crompton was ranked pretty high. #60 overall, I believe.
 
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#61
k-town_king said:
He has never said he plans to redshirt, only that he is open to it if best for the team. He has consistently said he expects to compete, but will redshirt if needed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-yTNIqJ5g

Start just before 1-1/2 minutes.

Says he wants to be a 4 year starter. Get here, "hopefully red-shirt a year. Get down the offense. And then come back and compete."

So, yeah he did. . .
 
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KBVol said:
Great get Kristy, well done. Knew I'd heard/read him say it, just couldn't remember where.
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Yeah, me too. I had to watch a few interviews to find it. But I was certain he had said something along those lines.
 
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Kristy* said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-yTNIqJ5g

Start just before 1-1/2 minutes.

Says he wants to be a 4 year starter. Get here, "hopefully red-shirt a year. Get down the offense. And then come back and compete."

So, yeah he did. . .
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Thanks. That is the first time someone has posted where he actually said that. Prior he had been saying he wanted to compete for the number 2 spot but was open to a redshirt year.
 
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#65
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k-town_king said:
Thanks. That is the first time someone has posted where he actually said that. Prior he had been saying he wanted to compete for the number 2 spot but was open to a redshirt year.
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It's all good. I fully believe the kid is gonna be a stud....only question is how quickly he catches on and when the Guarantano Era begins.....does he wait a year or 2 behind QD or Jones or does he assume the starter role in 2017? Either way, I'm thrilled he's a Vol and am excited about watching it all play out. At the end of the day it's all about who gives our Vols the best chance to win and I'm confident in Jones and DeBord to sort it out accordingly.
 
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#66
KBVol said:
No, it's not a ridiculous statement. You've been railing against QD ever since he stepped on campus as an EE, before he'd ever taken a spring practice snap, stating that you think he should and/or will transfer. You tried to fluff it up a bit by saying he'd be do good somewhere else, just not here, but that was predictably transparent.

Even when it was Jones who transferred (but came back) and not QD, you carried on with the unseemly opinion that he should transfer.

Perhaps you don't see the distinction in having an opinion about a kid's ability and chances to play at Tennessee and predicting he will and damn near advocating that he indeed should leave the program before he ever got started.....but a lot of us do.
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There have been a lot of players who have came here with high expectations and never amount to much on the field. What is ther difference? I don't see Dormady as a guy who will lead this football program, I never have. that doesn't mean he isn't a talented player. you have become way too invested in someone who isn't even a role player on this team. I thought Devron Young should have went somewhere else as well, he never amounted to much of anything here but could have been a great player at a Carson Newman or MTSU. My opinion on this kid is simplke a gut feeling and my intuition, I may be completely wrong but I don't think I will be. If he doesn't transfer I don't see him being "the Guy" here. He may stay but barring an injury to the other QBs I don't see him ever really getting the shot to be the starting QB. IF he does get that shot I will cheer for him just like i do every other player on the field. I genuinely don't care who our QB is but that doesn't change my opinion on Dormady.

Your claims are over board in saying that I hate Dormady, its not personal its football.
 
#67
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k-town_king said:
You were more wrong about Gibson than I was for one. He was recruited and signed by OSU as a qb before moving positions. Just like we did with J Jennings. He is not at Appy State like you claimed he would be. Plus JG is a qb. TG was an athlete with good potential to develop into a god qb.

I guess you were right about Riley Ferguson vs Dobbs huh? I know they will compete. I just think JG will win it. He is more talented and a better fit. I said the same thing about Dobbs vs RF. I was right about that. I was one of the few who could see the talent and knew he would be our qb.

JG is the most talented qb we have recruited since Peyton. That is the consensus opinion of anyone who covers hs football. I think he is our qb after Dobbs based on talent, skill, and rankings. OF course there is no guarantee.
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Got me mixed up with another of your default arguments. I never said Riley was the guy...I don't declare starters before the coaches...that's YOUR turf. :). And quit using "consensus" and "anyone who covers HS football". You overdo it and are so irresponsible you've lost your privileges. So, since Peyton we haven't RECRUITED a QB as talented as this kid? That's insane! And once...JUST FREAKING ONCE...put some names behind these "consensus experts". How'd they get together over ONE KID. From NJ? How much data and recruiting material did they pore over from ONE PROGRAM to form that CONSENSUS OPINION? Pure bombast...just like the TG RECRUITMENT. And you were "more right" about a WR who never will play QB? :lol: I wasn't even the one who claimed Gibson would end up at WR. I understand why you're still miffed about the Appy State joke...requires a sense of humor. This was fun...let's do memory lane again sometime. :wink2:
 
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#68
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johnrlansford said:
There have been a lot of players who have came here with high expectations and never amount to much on the field. What is ther difference? I don't see Dormady as a guy who will lead this football program, I never have. that doesn't mean he isn't a talented player. you have become way too invested in someone who isn't even a role player on this team. I thought Devron Young should have went somewhere else as well, he never amounted to much of anything here but could have been a great player at a Carson Newman or MTSU. My opinion on this kid is simplke a gut feeling and my intuition, I may be completely wrong but I don't think I will be. If he doesn't transfer I don't see him being "the Guy" here. He may stay but barring an injury to the other QBs I don't see him ever really getting the shot to be the starting QB. IF he does get that shot I will cheer for him just like i do every other player on the field. I genuinely don't care who our QB is but that doesn't change my opinion on Dormady.

Your claims are over board in saying that I hate Dormady, its not personal its football.
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Saying you're "hating on Dormady" or you're engaging in "Dormady hate" doesn't mean I think you actually hate him. It's not personal, it's what I think is your excessive criticism and what I think is an over the top prediction of him transferring....and honestly, that's my biggest hang up in this whole thing, you predicting a kid will/should transfer who had just signed his LOI to be a Vol. Just found it in poor form and just wrong to do.....especially before we'd even seen a practice video of him throwing a single pass.....suppose it's ultimately on me for letting it bother me, just think it's poor form as I've stated previously.
 
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#69
#69
butchna said:
Got me mixed up with another of your default arguments. I never said Riley was the guy...I don't declare starters before the coaches...that's YOUR turf. :). And quit using "consensus" and "anyone who covers HS football". You overdo it and are so irresponsible you've lost your privileges. So, since Peyton we haven't RECRUITED a QB as talented as this kid? That's insane! And once...JUST FREAKING ONCE...put some names behind these "consensus experts". How'd they get together over ONE KID. From NJ? How much data and recruiting material did they pore over from ONE PROGRAM to form that CONSENSUS OPINION? Pure bombast...just like the TG RECRUITMENT. And you were "more right" about a WR who never will play QB? :lol: I wasn't even the one who claimed Gibson would end up at WR. I understand why you're still miffed about the Appy State joke...requires a sense of humor. This was fun...let's do memory lane again sometime. :wink2:
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He is a the top dt qb on the composite rankings which take all the site into consideration. We have recruited some talented qbs. He and Crompton are the highest rated qbs signees since Peyton. Are you saying that isn't true? The numbers are available. JG was 200 spots higher than Dormady who was not even a top 15 qb. And yes I think JG wil start over QD. Its an opinion.
 
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#70
KBVol said:
Saying you're "hating on Dormady" or you're engaging in "Dormady hate" doesn't mean I think you actually hate him. It's not personal, it's what I think is your excessive criticism and what I think is an over the top prediction of him transferring....and honestly, that's my biggest hang up in this whole thing, you predicting a kid will/should transfer who had just signed his LOI to be a Vol. Just found it in poor form and just wrong to do.....especially before we'd even seen a practice video of him throwing a single pass.....suppose it's ultimately on me for letting it bother me, just think it's poor form as I've stated previously.
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Can you not see my point that some players come here with other more talented players at the same position and never amount to a much? That is all my opinion is, I only think he should transfer because i think he is a talented player who may never get the true shot at the position he wants. The kid has an arm, I question his decision making but other than that I believe he can be a good player. I just don't believe that he will get the shot here. Its not about me wanting him to transfer, i just think it may be what is best for the kid. Don't take things so personal (I take it personal as well sometimes when people say I hate Dormady, that just isn't the case), sorry it wasn't meant in poor form. But I will hold my opinion because that is what I believe.:)
 
#71
#71
I believe we all what the same thing in the end, For the VOls to win and it really doesn't matter who the QB is if that is happening.
 
#72
#72
k-town_king said:
He is a the top dt qb on the composite rankings which take all the site into consideration. We have recruited some talented qbs. He and Crompton are the highest rated qbs signees since Peyton. Are you saying that isn't true? The numbers are available. JG was 200 spots higher than Dormady who was not even a top 15 qb. And yes I think JG wil start over QD. Its an opinion.
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I have learned that its not your opinion that is the problem, It is the manner in which you express it!!!:)
 
#75
#75
KBVol said:
Saying you're "hating on Dormady" or you're engaging in "Dormady hate" doesn't mean I think you actually hate him. It's not personal, it's what I think is your excessive criticism and what I think is an over the top prediction of him transferring....and honestly, that's my biggest hang up in this whole thing, you predicting a kid will/should transfer who had just signed his LOI to be a Vol. Just found it in poor form and just wrong to do.....especially before we'd even seen a practice video of him throwing a single pass.....suppose it's ultimately on me for letting it bother me, just think it's poor form as I've stated previously.
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Had my own spiel...yours is better...ditto. :good!:
 
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