Ukraine II: The Fight Against Russian Aggression

https://youtu.be/aReRi1cJL8M

Hope.this link works. This isnthe.most ridiculous piece of garbage I have ever seen. Lolololololol

It works.for me...ras and pacer will love it.

In this Russian propaganda video, if you skip in a few minutes, they honestly believe they will roll up in a fruit truck that turns into a robotic helicopter and destroy about 100 f16s, 100 stealth bombers, an entire airfield, kill about. 1000 people am destroy a couple billion dollars worth of assets that just happened to be parked on the runway. The graphics look like it came from a Chinese knockoff of a playstation. Pretty sure.it is from RT or something. Hahahahahaha
 
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Like the US wanted Ukraine to join the EU? Let the people of these countries vote on it instead of the crooked politicians and oligarchs. If the people actually vote in favor of this, I have no problem with it, but showing polls in favor of this isn't enough...

Who would want to join the EU or NATO right now? Sriously?
 
Genesis khan, napoleon,hitler. What do they have on common?

None of the 3 could conquer Russia Ina ground war. Only the Chinese would stand a chance, and even that would require conscripted service and overwhelming waves of I'll trained civilians.

I don't see this as provocation, as no western country would ever fathom invading russia. It is what it appears, a show of force that we won't allow the Ukraine situation to happen again.

You would think that these Baltic nations would be rallying for trump loudly, in the absence of a real leader with balls....eastern Europe has paid dearly in some cases and lived in fear universally while Obama cowered to the Russian aggression. If hillary is elected, Moscow may reclaim half the former Soviet union.

Edit. That's why it surprises me that pooootin. Endorses trump? Trumpn2pnt let him run roughshod over Europe like the Muslim has....
 
Genesis khan, napoleon,hitler. What do they have on common?

None of the 3 could conquer Russia Ina ground war. Only the Chinese would stand a chance, and even that would require conscripted service and overwhelming waves of I'll trained civilians.

I don't see this as provocation, as no western country would ever fathom invading russia. It is what it appears, a show of force that we won't allow the Ukraine situation to happen again.

You would think that these Baltic nations would be rallying for trump loudly, in the absence of a real leader with balls....eastern Europe has paid dearly in some cases and lived in fear universally while Obama cowered to the Russian aggression. If hillary is elected, Moscow may reclaim half the former Soviet union.

Edit. That's why it surprises me that pooootin. Endorses trump? Trumpn2pnt let him run roughshod over Europe like the Muslim has....

Let me ask you something...Why would Russia want to invade the Baltics? These countries pose no threat...it's only the presence of US/NATO on the border with Russia that is the threat...
 
Why would the U.S. want to invade Russia?

Did you answer the question or do you answer questions with more questions?


Russia has no need to invade anywhere....they've made their strength known by rolling up the US trained Georgian army within days in 2008...

They left it a US puppet when they could've took over...

They could've annexed east Ukraine, but they didn't...

No one said anything about us invading Russia....just encroaching...
 
Let's put more soldiers and hardware on the doorstep of those "aggressive" Russians...smdh..

As you are aware by now, I think, I am not a proponent of NATO's acceptance of Baltic state membership or even necessarily of its military cooperation with nations like Ukraine and Georgia, but Russia is always welcomed to have military exercises with the Mexican army and navy in Baja California, if they want. There's no international law supposedly stopping them. The problem, however, is that Mexico, like most other nations on Earth, just doesn't give a damn about having Russia as an ally or partner.
 
Did you answer the question or do you answer questions with more questions?


Russia has no need to invade anywhere....they've made their strength known by rolling up the US trained Georgian army within days in 2008...

They left it a US puppet when they could've took over...

They could've annexed east Ukraine, but they didn't...

No one said anything about us invading Russia....just encroaching...

US trained doesn't mean anything. At all. The state of Georgia has more capability than the country.
 
Did you answer the question or do you answer questions with more questions?


Russia has no need to invade anywhere....they've made their strength known by rolling up the US trained Georgian army within days in 2008...

They left it a US puppet when they could've took over...

They could've annexed east Ukraine, but they didn't...

No one said anything about us invading Russia....just encroaching...

You gotta.be a paid russkie. Troll....

No red blooded American that just watched them invade Ukraine could rationally say with a straight face that Russia would never invade anyone. Nobody That Can Type Is That dang blind.
 
https://youtu.be/aReRi1cJL8M

Hope.this link works. This isnthe.most ridiculous piece of garbage I have ever seen. Lolololololol

It works.for me...ras and pacer will love it.

In this Russian propaganda video, if you skip in a few minutes, they honestly believe they will roll up in a fruit truck that turns into a robotic helicopter and destroy about 100 f16s, 100 stealth bombers, an entire airfield, kill about. 1000 people am destroy a couple billion dollars worth of assets that just happened to be parked on the runway. The graphics look like it came from a Chinese knockoff of a playstation. Pretty sure.it is from RT or something. Hahahahahaha

Did you guys watch the CGI film that starts about 5 minutes in? Pacer had to make this in his basement.
 
Genesis khan, napoleon,hitler. What do they have on common?

None of the 3 could conquer Russia Ina ground war. Only the Chinese would stand a chance, and even that would require conscripted service and overwhelming waves of I'll trained civilians.

I don't see this as provocation, as no western country would ever fathom invading russia. It is what it appears, a show of force that we won't allow the Ukraine situation to happen again.

You would think that these Baltic nations would be rallying for trump loudly, in the absence of a real leader with balls....eastern Europe has paid dearly in some cases and lived in fear universally while Obama cowered to the Russian aggression. If hillary is elected, Moscow may reclaim half the former Soviet union.

Edit. That's why it surprises me that pooootin. Endorses trump? Trumpn2pnt let him run roughshod over Europe like the Muslim has....

The Mongols did perfectly fine conquering Russia and kept it under their yak-clothed jackboots for two centuries. The only two things that would eventually end Mongol hegemony in Russia were the weakening of the Mongol empire through infighting and the guy in my avatar.

As for your comments regarding Trump and Hillary, I couldn't disagree more. The Baltic states have everything to worry about should a Trump presidency occur. He's stated that he may remove the US (aka, NATO) from NATO. Trump is the Kremlin's candidate because Putin and his inner circle know that Trump would do more to damage America's vast ally network than Russia could ever hope to do so itself. Hillary, on the other hand, is a warhawk on par with Dick Cheney. For the life of me, I can't understand why some conservatives think she is soft or weak in regards to taking "strong stances" (not to be confused with smart stances). Hillary would nuke Russia if it meant just improving five points in the polls against Trump.
 
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You gotta.be a paid russkie. Troll....

No red blooded American that just watched them invade Ukraine could rationally say with a straight face that Russia would never invade anyone. Nobody That Can Type Is That dang blind.

Invade? Lmao....

They showed an invasion of Georgia. That's what an invasion is! Not supporting "rebels" as our government seems to do?!

An invasion of Ukraine by Russia would've been over in weeks....and there would be no Neo Nazis in charge in Kyiv...
 
Let me ask you something...Why would Russia want to invade the Baltics? These countries pose no threat...it's only the presence of US/NATO on the border with Russia that is the threat...

If it were not for the potential threat from the US and/or the EU, I think it 75% likely that the Baltics would be Russian states again, if not already, then within the next decade or two. Russia has always thought the Baltic states pretenses and really just Russian territory that Russia occasionally leases them.

The Baltic states being in NATO prevents such an outcome. I don't think the Baltic states should be in NATO, however, because I just don't really give a damn about them, quite frankly. They're economically, politically, and militarily useless, and they provide us with nothing actually worth dying for. Let Russia have them, if Russia thinks they're so damned important.
 
Russia could've overtook South Ossetia, Abkhazia or Georgia if they do wanted to....

Had the crook Saakashvili by the balls, upside down....could've had him killed and took over his country. Instead, Russia left it alone after kicking its ass...

Now the once President of Georgia, Saakashvili, a criminal and fugitive, has been hired to sell out Ukraine, because there aren't enough home grown Ukrainians willing to do so...

This is what you support...
 
Russia could've overtook South Ossetia, Abkhazia or Georgia if they do wanted to....

Had the crook Saakashvili by the balls, upside down....could've had him killed and took over his country. Instead, Russia left it alone after kicking its ass...

Now the once President of Georgia, Saakashvili, a criminal and fugitive, has been hired to sell out Ukraine, because there aren't enough home grown Ukrainians willing to do so...

This is what you support...

Who is "you"?

And they have overtaken (and still occupy) South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The Russian military remains there to this day.
 
Meet the Americans Who Put Together the Coup in Kiev

http://rbth.com/articles/2010/12/06/what_does_wikileaks_say_about_russian_georgian_war05183.html

https://www.rt.com/news/271912-ukraine-us-saakashvili-wages/

Georgia strips ex-president Saakashvili of citizenship | Reuters

Saakashvili came to power in a bloodless "Rose Revolution" in 2003 and steered Georgia on a pro-Western course that antagonized Moscow and culminated in a five-day war in 2008 in which Georgia was crushed by Russian forces.

He is wanted in Georgia on charges including abusing his power and using excessive force against protesters in 2007, but Ukrainian prosecutors rejected a request to extradite him earlier this year.

Lol...
 

The same could be said of Putin, should he ever be placed in such a position (as unlikely as that is). At least Saakashvili came to power through some sort of pretense of democracy, rather than killing 300 of his fellow citizens in pseudo-terrorist attacks just so he could start another war in Chechnya, at a time Russia really needed a war to bring it together.

So what's your point?
 
Russia could've overtook South Ossetia, Abkhazia or Georgia if they do wanted to....

Had the crook Saakashvili by the balls, upside down....could've had him killed and took over his country. Instead, Russia left it alone after kicking its ass...

Now the once President of Georgia, Saakashvili, a criminal and fugitive, has been hired to sell out Ukraine, because there aren't enough home grown Ukrainians willing to do so...

This is what you support...

I've shown it several times in this thread and the first Ukrainian thread that there are more foreigners running Kiev than there are Ukrainians.
 
Did you answer the question or do you answer questions with more questions?


Russia has no need to invade anywhere....they've made their strength known by rolling up the US trained Georgian army within days in 2008...

They left it a US puppet when they could've took over...

They could've annexed east Ukraine, but they didn't...

No one said anything about us invading Russia....just encroaching...

US trained and they just commented on the fact that the M1A2 is the most advanced piece of military equipment they have ever seen, 8 years later. yeah, they were really trained. and does it really surprise you that after Russia invades a country, Georgia, that they want to leap into bed with Russia's biggest rival, the US? Its perfectly fricking logical.

and funny that you mention Georgia and Ukraine and encroaching against Russia in the same post.

even 8 years after they were invaded Georgia still hasn't joined NATO. Ukraine is stuck as well in limbo. how exactly has the US expanded, Montenegro? meanwhile Russia gets Donetsk, Crimea, South Ossetia, Abzhazia while being the "peaceful" (after an invasion and continuing creep). you can talk conspiracy all you want but look at the map, the only country redrawing borders is Russia (in the context of this conversation).
 
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